Does Earth's Inward Electric Field Result in Outward Electric Flux?

In summary: This is because the field is pointing inward, so the flux will be negative (outward) on a closed surface. This is perfectly valid and not a cause for confusion.
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Homework Statement



The Earth possesses an electric field of (average) magnitude 150 N/C near its surface. The field points radially inward. Calculate the net electric flux outward through a spherical surface surrounding, and just beyond, the Earth's surface.

Homework Equations



Flux = EAcos(theta)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that flux is proportional to the number of lines passing through a surface. Thus, we only need to calculate the the flux with respect to earth.

What confuses me is that, is there any net flux outward? Since the field lines point inward, and infinitesimally small surface vectors point outward, the sign of the flux will be negative. If the flux is negative, then there is a net flux into the volume. So I don't know if the answer is zero or simply (+-?)150*(4*pi*r^2), where r is the radius of the Earth.
 
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all the flux is outward on a closed surface. do you know gauss theorem ?
 
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Xsnac said:
all the flux is outward on a closed surface. do you know gauss theorem ?

[tex]\Phi = \oint \vec{E}*d\vec{A}[/tex]

[itex]d\vec{A}[/itex] always points outward from the enclosed surface.
So depending on [itex]\vec{E}[/itex], the flux can either be positive or negative?
 
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hitemup said:
[tex]\Phi = \oint \vec{E}*d\vec{A}[/tex]

[itex]d\vec{A}[/itex] always points outward from the enclosed surface.
So depending on [itex]\vec{E}[/itex], the flux can either be positive or negative?
I'm not sure but I think that flux can eighter be 0 or positive . not negative.
 
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What confuses me is that, is there any net flux outward? ##\qquad##correct
Since the field lines point inward, ##\qquad## ##\qquad####\qquad####\qquad##correct
and infinitesimally small surface vectors point outward, ##\qquad##correct
the sign of the flux will be negative. ##\qquad## ##\qquad## ##\qquad## ##\qquad##correct
If the flux is negative, then there is a net flux into the volume. ##\qquad##correct

So I don't know if the answer is zero or simply (+-?)150*(4*pi*r^2), where r is the radius of the Earth.
##\qquad## no reason to shy away from what you deduced: ##-## 150*(4*pi*r^2)

This does represent a net outward flux, with a negative sign. Net in the scientific sense of non-zero(*). Like a net force can have a negative sign if the positive axis points the other way. Common language doesn't like that and claims that net outward has to be positive definite. Maybe that explains our hesitation.

(*) And even that isn't very scientific: net is net and doesn't say anything about the value; it can be zero just as well.
 
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Xsnac said:
I'm not sure but I think that flux can eighter be 0 or positive . not negative.
The flux can be and in this case is negative (outward). That's equivalent to saying that the net flux is inward.
 

Related to Does Earth's Inward Electric Field Result in Outward Electric Flux?

1. What is electric flux?

Electric flux is a measure of the electric field passing through a given area. It is defined as the surface integral of the electric field over a closed surface.

2. How is electric flux calculated?

Electric flux is calculated by multiplying the magnitude of the electric field by the area of the surface and the cosine of the angle between the electric field and the surface normal.

3. What is the unit of electric flux?

The unit of electric flux is volts per meter (V/m) in SI units. In cgs units, it is measured in statvolts per centimeter (statV/cm).

4. What is the significance of calculating electric flux?

Calculating electric flux allows us to understand the strength and direction of the electric field passing through a given surface. It is also used in various applications, such as determining the electric field inside a capacitor or near a charged object.

5. Can electric flux be negative?

Yes, electric flux can be negative. This occurs when the electric field and the surface normal are in opposite directions, resulting in a negative cosine value in the calculation. Negative electric flux indicates that the electric field is directed inward, while positive electric flux indicates that the electric field is directed outward.

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