Calculating moving speaker through two detectors

In summary: The frequency of the light blinking on each of the detectors is##f = \frac{v}{\lambda} = 4.857 X 10^8 Hz##
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Homework Statement



A speaker emitting sound at a frequency of 20 Hz is moving in the +x direction between two detectors. The speaker is moving at a speed of 30 m/s and the detectors are wired so that they flash red (λ = 700 nm) when the pressure is a maximum and green (λ = 700 nm) when the pressure is a minimum. Use 340 m/s as the speed of sound.

[1] Calculate the distance between maxima ahead and behind the moving speaker.

[2] Calculate the frequency of the light blinking on each of the detectors.

[3] An observer between the detectors is moving at 0.8c in the +x direction. Calculate the frequencies for the red and green lights for each detector this observer sees.

[4] Transform the velocity of the speaker to the observer frame as well as the velocity of sound in each direction.

2. Homework Equations

##f' = f \frac{v \pm v_{receiver}}{v \pm v_{source}}##

##t' = \frac{t}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}##

The Attempt at a Solution


I am confused at the start with how the detectors detect maximum and minimum pressure and subsequently question1 about the maxima?
 
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How the detectors work does not matter.
Sound waves are pressure waves - the distance between two consecutive maxima of a wave has a special name.
 
  • #3
OK thanks, wavelength!

[1] Calculate the distance between maxima ahead and behind the moving speaker.

##\lambda_{behind} = \frac{v_{sound} + v_{source}}{f} = 18.5 m##
##\lambda_{ahead} = \frac{v_{sound} - v_{source}}{f} = 15.5 m##

[2] Calculate the frequency of the light blinking on each of the detectors.

##f = \frac{v}{\lambda} = 4.857 X 10^8 Hz##

[3] An observer between the detectors is moving at 0.8c in the +x direction. Calculate the frequencies for the red and green lights for each detector this observer sees.

##T = \frac{v_{speaker} - v_{observer}}{1 - \frac{v_{speaker} v_{observer}}{c^2}} = 2.0588 X 10^{-9} s##

##T' = \frac{T}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^2}{c^2}}} = \frac{2.0588 X 10^{-9} s}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{(.8c)^2}{c^2}}} = 3.4314 X 10^{-9} s##

##f' = \frac{1}{T'} = 2.9143 X 10^8 s##

[4] Transform the velocity of the speaker to the observer frame as well as the velocity of sound in each direction.

##v'_{speaker} = \frac{v_{speaker} - v_{observer}}{1 - \frac{v_{speaker} v_{observer}}{c^2}} = -2.3983486 X 10^8 m/s##

##v'_{sound +x direction} = \frac{v_{sound +x direction} - v_{observer}}{1 - \frac{v_{sound +x direction} v_{observer}}{c^2}} = \frac{340 m/s - .8c}{1 - \frac{(340 m/s)(.8c)}{c^2}} = -2.3985502 X 10^8 m/s##

##v'_{sound -x direction} = \frac{v_{sound +x direction} - v_{observer}}{1 - \frac{v_{sound +x direction} v_{observer}}{c^2}} = \frac{-340 m/s - .8c}{1 - \frac{(-340 m/s)(.8c)}{c^2}} = -2.39812182 X 10^8 m/s##

What is throwing me off now is that the velocity of sound in the -x direction according to the observer's frame is moving slower than the sound moving in the +x direction. I would think that it should be the opposite?
 
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In the observers reference frame, the detectors are moving in the -x direction at 0.8c ... one of the detectors is behind.
You don't need the velocity of sound in the observer's frame to do the problem - only the frequency of the flashing lights in their rest frame and the relative velocities.
 
  • #5
Oh I see:

##v'_{ahead} = v_{ahead} - v_{observer} = \frac{f}{\lambda} - .8c = \frac{7X10^{-7}}{15.5} - .8c = -2.398335999999999548 X10^8 m/s##

##v'_{behind} = -v_{behind} - v_{observer} =- \frac{f}{\lambda} - .8c = -\frac{7X10^{-7}}{18.5} - .8c = -2.398336000000000378 X10^8 m/s##
 

1. How do you calculate the speed of a moving speaker using two detectors?

To calculate the speed of a moving speaker using two detectors, you will need to measure the time it takes for the sound wave to travel between the two detectors. Then, divide the distance between the two detectors by the time measured to get the speed of the sound wave. This speed can be used as an estimate for the speed of the moving speaker.

2. What type of detectors are needed for this calculation?

The detectors used for calculating the speed of a moving speaker should be sensitive enough to detect the sound waves produced by the speaker. They can be microphones or specialized sound detectors, such as laser or ultrasonic detectors.

3. Can this method be used for any type of speaker?

Yes, this method can be used for any type of speaker as long as it produces a sound wave that can be detected by the detectors. However, the accuracy of the calculation may vary depending on the type and quality of the speaker.

4. Is it necessary to have a known distance between the two detectors?

Yes, in order to accurately calculate the speed of the moving speaker, a known distance between the two detectors is necessary. This distance can be measured beforehand or during the experiment.

5. Are there any potential sources of error in this calculation?

Yes, there are potential sources of error in this calculation, such as the accuracy of the detector measurements, the speed of sound may vary depending on temperature and humidity, and external noise interference. It is important to minimize these sources of error to obtain an accurate calculation.

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