Calculating the boiling temperature

In summary: Interesting what you pointed out about Clapeyron first publishing his relation assuming ideal gases ... Fermi managed two independent means of deriving the more general dp/dT = l/TΔv. Of course, that was in the 1930's
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Homework Statement


I'm stuck on the following problem: A particular liquid boils at 127°C at a pressure of 800 mmHg. It has a heat of vaporization of 1000 cal/mole. At what temperature will it boil if the pressure is raised to 810 mmHg?

Homework Equations


Clapeyron's equation: ##\frac{dP}{dT}=\frac{l}{T\Delta v}##. (1)
##l=T\Delta s##. (2)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the problem is given right after introducing the Clapeyron's equation in the book, I guess I must use it. However nothing is said about the difference in volumes of the gaseous and liquid phase of the substance.
Some thoughts: Since the pressure difference is small, I guess I can consider the heat of vaporization ##l## as a constant for the problem.
So I could calculate the change in entropy of the substance when it boils at 127°C and pressure of 800 mmHg. But I don't see how this would help me to calculate the temperature I'm asked to find. I'd need to know the change in entropy (which I know is lower than the one at pressure of 800 mmHg) of the substance if it boils when the pressure is 810 mmHg.

Second thoughts. If I consider that ##\frac{dP}{dT}## is a constant between T=127°C and the temperature I'm looking for, then ##T\Delta v## is also constant (applying Clapeyron's equation as well as assuming ##l## constant). Now, ##\Delta v \approx v^\text{gas}## because 1 mole of gas occupies a somewhat much greater volume than 1 mole of liquid. So ##Tv^\text{gas}=\text{constant}##. If I assume that the gas is ideal, then ##v=\frac{RT}{P}##. Thus ##\frac{T^2R}{P}=\text{constant} \Rightarrow \frac{T^2}{P}=\text{constant}##.
A simple plugging and chugging and isolating ##T^2## leads me to ##T\approx 129.5°C##.
It looks like I've solved the problem when writting it up here. I wonder if my assumptions are correct (that the heat of vaporization as well as dP/dT are constants in the region where I'm interested) and if I've reached the correct result.
Thank you for your time and effort.Edit: I doubt my answer is right since I've never used the value of ##l=1000 cal/mol##. I considered it constant, that all I did about it.
 
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You did a very nice job of analyzing this. You were very perceptive to substitute the ideal gas law and neglect the volume of the liquid. This is exactly what Clausius did when he derived the Clausius-Clapeyron equation:
[tex]\frac{dP}{dT}=\frac{lP}{RT^2}[/tex]
Rearranging:
[tex]\frac{dlnP}{d(1/T)}=-\frac{l}{R}[/tex]

Since the change in lnP and the change in 1/T are going to be very small, you can assume that, over that small an interval, l is nearly constant. So,

[tex]\frac{ΔlnP}{Δ(1/T)}=-\frac{l}{R}[/tex]
 
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Chestermiller said:
You did a very nice job of analyzing this. You were very perceptive to substitute the ideal gas law and neglect the volume of the liquid. This is exactly what Clausius did when he derived the Clausius-Clapeyron equation:
[tex]\frac{dP}{dT}=\frac{lP}{RT^2}[/tex]

Perhaps a bit more straightforwardly:

Δp/ΔT = lp/RT2 or
ΔT = RT2Δp/lp.
Right? Those differentials give me headaches ... :smile:
 
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rude man said:
Perhaps a bit more straightforwardly:

Δp/ΔT = lp/RT2 or
ΔT = RT2Δp/lp.
Right? Those differentials give me headaches ... :smile:

Yes. But one of the nice features of the Clausius-Clapeyron equation is that the heat of vaporization is a relatively weak function of temperature, so that the integrated version (assuming constant l) typically applies quite accurately over fairly large changes in temperature and pressure (i.e., several tens of degrees):

[tex]\ln(P_2/P_1)=\frac{l(T_2-T_1)}{RT_2T_1}[/tex]
 
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Chestermiller said:
Yes. But one of the nice features of the Clausius-Clapeyron equation is that the heat of vaporization is a relatively weak function of temperature, so that the integrated version (assuming constant l) typically applies quite accurately over fairly large changes in temperature and pressure (i.e., several tens of degrees):

[tex]\ln(P_2/P_1)=\frac{l(T_2-T_1)}{RT_2T_1}[/tex]

I think the math's the same:

Δp/ΔT = lp/RT2 or more accurately
dp/dT = lp/RT2
dp/p = l/RT2 dT
integrating from p1 to p2 on the LHS and T1 to T2 on the RHS gives

ln(p2/p1) = (-l/R)(1/T2 - 1/T1).

EDIT: never mind Chet, I approximated dp/dT as Δp/ΔT which is not as accurate as dp/dT integrated as per your result. Not a big difference in the answer but still I should have integrated.


Interesting what you pointed out about Clapeyron first publishing his relation assuming ideal gases ... Fermi managed two independent means of deriving the more general dp/dT = l/TΔv. Of course, that was in the 1930's ...
 
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1. What is boiling temperature?

Boiling temperature is the temperature at which a liquid changes into a gas. It is the point at which the vapor pressure of the liquid is equal to the atmospheric pressure.

2. How is boiling temperature calculated?

The boiling temperature of a liquid can be calculated using the Clausius-Clapeyron equation, which takes into account the vapor pressure, temperature, and molar heat of vaporization of the liquid.

3. What factors affect the boiling temperature of a liquid?

The boiling temperature of a liquid is affected by the atmospheric pressure, the type of liquid, and the altitude.

4. How does altitude affect the boiling temperature of water?

As altitude increases, the atmospheric pressure decreases, which lowers the boiling temperature of water. This is why water boils at a lower temperature in higher altitudes.

5. Can the boiling temperature of a liquid be changed?

Yes, the boiling temperature of a liquid can be changed by altering the atmospheric pressure or by adding substances (such as salt) to the liquid, which can affect its vapor pressure and boiling point.

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