Can complex potentials lead to allowed trajectories?

In summary, the conversation discusses the solution to the Schrodinger equation and the formation of the complex potential and classical equation of motion. It also considers the use of a trial function to solve the equation and the concept of complex trajectories and their potential existence, as well as the Uncertainty Principle and its implications on measuring position and momentum.
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let be the solution to SE in the form [tex]\psi=exp(iS/\hbar)[/tex] where S has the "exact" differential equation solution in the form:

[tex]\frac{dS}{dt}+\frac{1}{2m}(\nabla{S})^{2}+V(x)-\frac{i\hbar}{2m}(\nabla^{2}{S}) [/tex]

then we could form the complex potential:[tex]U=V(x)-\frac{i\hbar}{2m}(\nabla^{2}{S})[/tex]

and the Classical equation of Motion in the form:

[tex]m\frac{d^{2}x}{dx^{2}}=-\nabla{U} [/tex]

How do we solve equation (1)?...for example we use a trial function for S=f(r,t) then we calculate [tex]\nabla^{2}{f(r,t)[/tex] and introduce it into equation (1),solve S for this function f(r,t) and again we introduce into the differential equation to find another value of S more accurate than before.

Complex trajectories...are they allowed?..remember that the particle can be into a "classical forbidden" region,then if we use the eikonal equation of Optics [tex](\nabla{S})^{2}=n^{2} [/tex] with n the refraction index of the material we would find for our particle that n would be complex so the "rays of light" trajectories of the particle,can go inside the potential barrier...
 
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let be the solution to SE in the form [tex]\psi=exp(iS/\hbar)[/tex] where S has the "exact" differential equation solution in the form:

[tex]\frac{dS}{dt}+\frac{1}{2m}(\nabla{S})^{2}+V(x)-\frac{i\hbar}{2m}(\nabla^{2}{S}) [/tex]

then we could form the complex potential:[tex]U=V(x)-\frac{i\hbar}{2m}(\nabla^{2}{S})[/tex]

and the Classical equation of Motion in the form:

[tex]m\frac{d^{2}r}{dr^{2}}=-\nabla{U} [/tex]

How do we solve equation (1)?...for example we use a trial function for S=f(r,t) then we calculate [tex]\nabla^{2}{f(r,t)[/tex] and introduce it into equation (1),solve S for this function f(r,t) and again we introduce into the differential equation to find another value of S more accurate than before.

Complex trajectories...are they allowed?..remember that the particle can be into a "classical forbidden" region,then if we use the eikonal equation of Optics [tex](\nabla{S})^{2}=n^{2} [/tex] with n the refraction index of the material we would find for our particle that n would be complex so the "rays of light" trajectories of the particle,can go inside the potential barrier...

Remember that Uncertainty Principle says that we can not meassure the variable of postion and momentum because if we meassured the position using photons these photons interacting with the particle would modify its momentum but this does not imply that trajectories won,t exist.
 
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I would say that complex potentials can potentially lead to allowed trajectories, but this concept is still a topic of ongoing research and debate in the scientific community. The use of complex potentials in quantum mechanics is a useful mathematical tool, but it does not necessarily correspond to a physical reality. It is important to note that the classical equation of motion mentioned in the content is a simplified version of the Schrödinger equation and may not accurately describe the behavior of quantum particles.

The idea of complex trajectories is intriguing, but it is important to remember that it is a mathematical concept and not a physical one. The concept of "classical forbidden" regions in quantum mechanics is based on the probability of a particle being found in a certain location, not on its trajectory. Therefore, the use of the eikonal equation of optics in this context may not be applicable.

In order to solve the equation (1), a more rigorous approach would be to use numerical methods or perturbation theory to obtain an approximate solution. The use of a trial function may provide an estimate, but it may not accurately represent the behavior of the particle.

In conclusion, the concept of complex potentials and trajectories in quantum mechanics is a complex and ongoing topic of research. While they may provide useful mathematical tools, their physical interpretation is still a subject of debate. Further research and experimentation are needed to fully understand the implications of complex potentials and trajectories in quantum mechanics.
 

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1. What are complex trajectories?

Complex trajectories refer to the paths or movements of objects that are influenced by multiple forces or factors. These forces can include gravity, friction, air resistance, and other external factors.

2. Why are complex trajectories important in science?

Understanding complex trajectories is crucial in fields such as physics, astronomy, and engineering. It allows scientists to predict and analyze the movements of objects in various environments, which is essential for developing technologies and making accurate calculations.

3. How do scientists study complex trajectories?

Scientists use mathematical models and simulations to study complex trajectories. These models take into account various factors such as initial velocity, mass, and environmental conditions to predict the path of an object.

4. Can complex trajectories change over time?

Yes, complex trajectories can change over time due to various factors such as changes in the environment or the object's initial conditions. This is why it is important for scientists to continually study and analyze complex trajectories.

5. What are some real-life examples of complex trajectories?

Some real-life examples of complex trajectories include the movement of planets in our solar system, the flight paths of airplanes, and the motion of projectiles like a basketball or a bullet. These trajectories are influenced by multiple forces and can be studied using mathematical models and simulations.

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