Checking if a function is an equipotential surface

In summary: This means that \nabla^2 f = \frac 1{\alpha(\lambda)} \frac{d\alpha}{d\lambda} \|\nabla f\|^2 = \phi(\lambda)\|\nabla f\|^2 since \nabla^2 V = 0 and \alpha is constant on surfaces of constant f. This theorem is applicable in spherical coordinates as well since it is based on vector notation and is valid in any orthogonal coordinate system. In summary, the theorem states that a surface represented by the function f(x,y,z) = λ can be an equipotential surface if the condition \frac{\nabla^{2}\;f}{|\vec{\nabla\
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Homework Statement
checking if a function is could form an equipotential surface
Relevant Equations
laplacian(f)/ |grad(f)|^2 = constant
hi guys
I came across that theorem that could be used to check if a surface represented by the function f(x,y,z) = λ could represent an equipotential surface or not, and it states that if this condition holds:
$$\frac{\nabla^{2}\;f}{|\vec{\nabla\;f}|^{2}} = \phi(\lambda)$$
then f(x,y,z) could represent an equipotential surface, my question here is this theorem applicaple also in spherical cordinates as its or it should be modifed? also can some one explain the intuition behind it
 
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[itex]f(x,y,z) = \lambda[/itex] will be an equipotential surface if [itex]\nabla f[/itex] is everywhere parallel to [itex]\nabla V[/itex]. Thus [tex]
\nabla f = \alpha(\mathbf{x})\nabla V[/tex] where [itex]\alpha \neq 0[/itex]. Then [tex]
\begin{split}
\nabla^2f &= \alpha\nabla^2 V + \nabla \alpha \cdot \nabla V
&= \frac{\nabla \alpha}{\alpha} \cdot \nabla f
\end{split}[/tex] assuming [itex]\nabla^2 V = 0[/itex]. You can then get [tex]
\nabla^2 f = \frac 1{\alpha(\lambda)} \frac{d\alpha}{d\lambda} \|\nabla f\|^2 = \phi(\lambda)\|\nabla f\|^2[/tex] if you assume that [itex]\alpha[/itex] depends on [itex]\mathbf{x}[/itex] only in the combination [itex]f(\mathbf{x})[/itex] but I don't see why that assumption is required.

As the result is obtained using vector notation, it is valid in any orthogonal coordinate system.
 
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[itex]f(x,y,z) = \lambda[/itex] will be an equipotential surface if [itex]\nabla f[/itex] is everywhere parallel to [itex]\nabla V[/itex]. Thus [tex]
\nabla f = \alpha(\mathbf{x})\nabla V[/tex] where [itex]\alpha \neq 0[/itex]. Then [tex]
\begin{split}
\nabla^2f &= \alpha\nabla^2 V + \nabla \alpha \cdot \nabla V
&= \frac{\nabla \alpha}{\alpha} \cdot \nabla f
\end{split}[/tex] assuming [itex]\nabla^2 V = 0[/itex]. You can then get [tex]
\nabla^2 f = \frac 1{\alpha(\lambda)} \frac{d\alpha}{d\lambda} \|\nabla f\|^2 = \phi(\lambda)\|\nabla f\|^2[/tex] if you assume that [itex]\alpha[/itex] depends on [itex]\mathbf{x}[/itex] only in the combination [itex]f(\mathbf{x})[/itex] but I don't see why that assumption is required.

As the result is obtained using vector notation, it is valid in any orthogonal coordinate system.
thanks its clear now, but can you explain the last step
[tex]
\nabla^2 f = \frac 1{\alpha(\lambda)} \frac{d\alpha}{d\lambda} \|\nabla f\|^2 = \phi(\lambda)\|\nabla f\|^2[/tex]
 
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pasmith said:
[itex]f(x,y,z) = \lambda[/itex] will be an equipotential surface if [itex]\nabla f[/itex] is everywhere parallel to [itex]\nabla V[/itex]. Thus [tex]
\nabla f = \alpha(\mathbf{x})\nabla V[/tex] where [itex]\alpha \neq 0[/itex]. Then [tex]
\begin{split}
\nabla^2f &= \alpha\nabla^2 V + \nabla \alpha \cdot \nabla V
&= \frac{\nabla \alpha}{\alpha} \cdot \nabla f
\end{split}[/tex] assuming [itex]\nabla^2 V = 0[/itex]. You can then get [tex]
\nabla^2 f = \frac 1{\alpha(\lambda)} \frac{d\alpha}{d\lambda} \|\nabla f\|^2 = \phi(\lambda)\|\nabla f\|^2[/tex] if you assume that [itex]\alpha[/itex] depends on [itex]\mathbf{x}[/itex] only in the combination [itex]f(\mathbf{x})[/itex] but I don't see why that assumption is required.

Taking the curl of the first equation gives [tex]
0 = \nabla \alpha \times \nabla V = \alpha(\nabla \alpha \times \nabla f)[/tex] so [itex]\nabla \alpha[/itex] and [itex]\nabla f[/itex] are parallel. Thus [itex]\alpha[/itex] is constant on surfaces of constant [itex]f[/itex], so indeed [itex]\alpha = \alpha(\lambda)[/itex].
 
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1. What is an equipotential surface?

An equipotential surface is a surface in a three-dimensional space where every point on the surface has the same potential value. In other words, the potential at any point on the surface is constant and does not vary.

2. How can I check if a function is an equipotential surface?

To check if a function is an equipotential surface, you can use the concept of gradient. If the gradient of the function is always perpendicular to the surface, then the function is an equipotential surface.

3. What is the significance of equipotential surfaces?

Equipotential surfaces are important in the study of electric and gravitational fields. They help us understand the behavior of these fields and how they interact with objects in their vicinity. They also aid in the calculation of electric and gravitational potentials.

4. Can an equipotential surface exist in a non-uniform field?

Yes, an equipotential surface can exist in a non-uniform field. In this case, the surface will not be a perfect sphere or plane, but rather a curved surface that follows the direction of the field lines. The potential will still be constant at every point on the surface.

5. How are equipotential surfaces related to electric potential energy?

Equipotential surfaces and electric potential energy are closely related. The potential energy of a charged particle is directly proportional to its charge and the potential difference between two points. Since equipotential surfaces have a constant potential, the potential difference between any two points on the same surface is zero, meaning that the potential energy of a charged particle on an equipotential surface is also constant.

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