Confirming Green's function for homogeneous Helmholtz equation (3D)

In summary, the conversation discusses solving the delta function equation using the Helmholtz equation. The resulting solution is proportional to 1/r, which has a delta inhomogeneity at r=0. This is valid for r>0, as the coordinate system is singular at r=0. To confirm this, the speaker suggests integrating the differential equation over a small sphere.
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Homework Statement
The 3D Helmholtz equation is

##\left(\nabla^2 + k^2 \right) \Psi \left( r \right)= 0##

Supposedly the Green's function for this equation is

##G\left(r \right) = - \frac{1}{4 \pi} \frac{e^{ikr}}{r}##
Relevant Equations
A green's function is defined as the solution to the following

##\left( \nabla^2 + k^2 \right) G = \delta \left( r \right)##

The laplacian in spherical coordinates (for purely radial dependence) is

##\nabla^2 t = \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial }{\partial r} \left(\frac{1}{r^2}\frac{\partial t}{\partial r} \right)##
Plugging in the supposed ##G## into the delta function equation

##\nabla^2 G = -\frac{1}{4 \pi} \frac{1}{r^2} \frac{\partial}{\partial r} \left(\frac{r^2 \left(ikr e^{ikr} - e^{ikr} \right)}{r^2} \right)##

##= -\frac{1}{4 \pi} \frac{1}{r^2} \left[ike^{ikr} - rk^2 e^{ikr} - ike^{ikr} \right]##

##= \frac{k^2 e^{ikr}}{4 \pi r}##

##k^2 G## is simply

##k^2 G = - \frac{k^2 e^{ikr}}{4 \pi r}##

So we get

##\left( \nabla^2 + k^2 \right) G = 0##

I know the delta function is zero everywhere else besides r = 0 where it is infinity, but I'm getting 0 across the board instead of a delta function.

Thanks for any help in advanced.
 
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PhDeezNutz said:
but I'm getting 0 across the board instead of a delta function
No you are not. What you are doing is only valid for r>0 as your coordinate system is singular at r=0.

Try integrating the differential equation over a small sphere.

Edit: Also consider that the special case of Poisson’s equation (ie, Helmholtz with k=0) has a solution proportional to 1/r. This is known to have a delta inhomogeneity at r=0.
 
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1. What is the homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D?

The homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D is a partial differential equation that describes the propagation of waves in a three-dimensional space. It is written as ∇²u + k²u = 0, where u is the unknown function and k is the wave number.

2. What is a Green's function?

A Green's function is a mathematical tool used to solve linear differential equations. It represents the response of a system to an impulse or point source at a specific location.

3. How is Green's function used to confirm solutions to the homogeneous Helmholtz equation?

To confirm solutions to the homogeneous Helmholtz equation, we can use the Green's function to construct a solution that satisfies the boundary conditions of the problem. This solution can then be compared to the original solution to verify its correctness.

4. What are the steps for confirming Green's function for the homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D?

The steps for confirming Green's function for the homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D are as follows:

  • 1. Write the homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D.
  • 2. Use separation of variables to find the general solution to the equation.
  • 3. Apply boundary conditions to determine the coefficients of the solution.
  • 4. Use the Green's function to construct a solution that satisfies the boundary conditions.
  • 5. Compare the constructed solution to the original solution to confirm its correctness.

5. What are some applications of the homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D?

The homogeneous Helmholtz equation in 3D has many applications in physics and engineering, including:

  • Acoustics and sound propagation
  • Electromagnetic wave propagation
  • Seismic wave propagation
  • Quantum mechanics and Schrödinger's equation
  • Fluid dynamics and wave motion

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