Confused on a first order seperable diff EQ wee

In summary: That was my first ever attempt at solving a diff equation, before I had seen a few examples, but never actually tried one), I wish my maths teachers offered me money each time I got a question right, lol, oh well, I can always dream...In summary, the differential equation has an implicit general solution of the form F(x,y) = K. Find such a solution and then give the related functions requested.
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mr_coffee
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Hello everyone. I'm going back to all my old webworks and trying to finish them and I'm still having problems on first order. It says this is seperable but I'm not seeing it.
Here are the directions:
The differential equation
http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/34/514d5bb475169a72ecc1cc497078721.png
has an implicit general solution of the form F(x,y) = K.

In fact, because the differential equation is separable, we can define the solution curve implicitly by a function in the form
F(x,y) = G(x) + H(y) =K.


Find such a solution and then give the related functions requested.
F(x,y) = G(x) + H(y) =

Okay well this is what i attempted, and I'm not seeing how this is seperable.
http://suprfile.com/src/1/51fysb/lastscan.jpg

the very bottom is the answer the Ti-89 pumped out. But i'd like to know how to do it as well. And the form the Ti-89 put out confuses me, if i want the answer in the form of g(x) + h(y) = K would i solve for C1?
 
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What makes you think that equation is separable?
 
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urnt, well it says so in the directions:
In fact, because the differential equation is separable...
 
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I don't know that much about differential equations, so what I'm about to say could be a load of BS, I'm not sure, anyway, can't that equation be written as [itex] \frac{dy}{dx} = (4x+3)(5y+6) [/itex], then can you not simply separate the varibles and then integrate both sides?

Like I said, I don't have any real knowledge of diff equations, but is that what you mean?
 
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finchie, u did it hah, it was right!
http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/0a/b633d3ce241b65e80f784da84842d81.png
e-mailing u some cash.
 
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lol, no worries (That was my first ever attempt at solving a diff equation, before I had seen a few examples, but never actually tried one), I wish my maths teachers offered me money each time I got a question right, lol, oh well, I can always dream...
 
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finchie_88 said:
I don't know that much about differential equations, so what I'm about to say could be a load of BS, I'm not sure, anyway, can't that equation be written as [itex] \frac{dy}{dx} = (4x+3)(5y+6) [/itex], then can you not simply separate the varibles and then integrate both sides?

Like I said, I don't have any real knowledge of diff equations, but is that what you mean?


Well done. That is why it is a separable equation!
 
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mr_coffee said:
finchie, u did it hah, it was right!
http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/0a/b633d3ce241b65e80f784da84842d81.png
e-mailing u some cash.

No, it isn't. That isn't even an equation.
 
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my bad.
http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/57/f15a6cea760ce4906a6ec16f9d29451.png http://cwcsrv11.cwc.psu.edu/webwork2_files/tmp/equations/0a/b633d3ce241b65e80f784da84842d81.png
 
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1. What is a first order separable differential equation?

A first order separable differential equation is a type of differential equation that can be written in the form dy/dx = f(x)g(y), where dy/dx represents the derivative of y with respect to x, and f(x) and g(y) are functions of x and y, respectively. This type of equation can be solved by separating the variables and integrating both sides.

2. How do I solve a first order separable differential equation?

To solve a first order separable differential equation, you must first separate the variables by moving all terms involving y to one side of the equation and all terms involving x to the other side. Then, integrate both sides of the equation with respect to x. Finally, solve for y to get the general solution.

3. What are the applications of first order separable differential equations?

First order separable differential equations have many applications in various fields of science, such as physics, chemistry, and biology. They can be used to model a wide range of natural phenomena, including population growth, chemical reactions, and radioactive decay.

4. What are some common techniques used to solve first order separable differential equations?

Some common techniques used to solve first order separable differential equations include separation of variables, substitution, and integration by parts. Other techniques, such as using integrating factors or transforming the equation into a linear form, may also be used depending on the specific equation.

5. Are there any real-life examples of first order separable differential equations?

Yes, there are many real-life examples of first order separable differential equations. Some examples include the logistic equation, which is used to model population growth, and the Newton's law of cooling equation, which describes the rate at which an object cools down to the temperature of its surroundings.

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