Cross Products in Spherical Coordinates: Is A x B True?

In summary, when comparing A x B in spherical coordinates to Cartesian coordinates, it is easier to convert to Cartesian, perform the cross product, and then convert back. This is due to the difference in unit vectors between the two coordinate systems. Learning and understanding the rules for cross product in spherical coordinates can also provide better conceptual understanding.
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Is A x B = | i j k | also true for Spherical Coordinates?
| r1 theta1 phi1 |
| r2 theta2 phi2 |

Or I have to convert them to Cartesian Coordinates and do the cross product and then convert them back?
 
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The short answer: just convert to Cartesian, perform the cross product, then convert back. That's probably the easiest way to go in most cases.

The reason the rules change are because in Cartesian coordinates, the unit vectors are all linear and perpendicular to each other,

[tex]
A = a_1 \hat{e}_x + a_2 \hat{e}_y + a_3 \hat{e}_z
[/tex]

But in spherical coordinates, just one of the unit vectors is linear ([itex]\hat{e}_r[/itex]) and the other two are spherical ([itex]\hat{e}_{\theta}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{e}_{\phi}[/itex]). Of course the cross product is independent of any coordinate system you choose, but it's considerably more difficult to do it in [itex](r,\theta,\phi)[/itex]. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product#Computing_the_cross_product for more information about the basis vectors.

There is also a short, informative discussion here:
http://math.stackexchange.com/quest...lculating-dot-and-cross-products-in-spherical
 
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Spherical polar coordinates [itex](r, \theta, \phi)[/itex] are an orthogonal right-handed system: [tex]
\mathbf{e}_r \times \mathbf{e}_\theta = \mathbf{e}_\phi \\
\mathbf{e}_\theta \times \mathbf{e}_\phi = \mathbf{e}_r \\
\mathbf{e}_\phi \times \mathbf{e}_r = \mathbf{e}_\theta,[/tex] as are cartesian coordinates (x,y,z):[tex]
\mathbf{i} \times \mathbf{j} = \mathbf{k} \\
\mathbf{j} \times \mathbf{k} = \mathbf{i} \\
\mathbf{k} \times \mathbf{i} = \mathbf{j}
[/tex] Learning these results and using distributivity of the cross product over vector addition results in better conceptual understanding than using determinants.
 
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1. What are cross products in spherical coordinates?

A cross product is a mathematical operation that takes two vectors as inputs and produces a new vector that is perpendicular to both of the input vectors. In spherical coordinates, the cross product is calculated using the cross product formula in terms of the spherical unit vectors (r, θ, φ).

2. How is the cross product calculated in spherical coordinates?

The cross product in spherical coordinates is calculated using the following formula: A x B = (ArBr - AθBθ - AφBφ)r + (AφBθ - ArBφ + AθBr)θ + (ArBφ - AφBr + AθBθ)φ. This formula uses the spherical unit vectors and the dot product of the two vectors A and B.

3. Is the cross product commutative in spherical coordinates?

No, the cross product is not commutative in spherical coordinates. This means that A x B is not equal to B x A. The order in which the vectors are crossed affects the direction of the resulting vector. However, the magnitude of the resulting vector will be the same regardless of the order.

4. What is the physical significance of the cross product in spherical coordinates?

The physical significance of the cross product in spherical coordinates is that it represents the direction of the torque or moment caused by the two input vectors. This can be useful in mechanical engineering and physics when calculating forces and rotations.

5. Is the cross product valid in all coordinate systems?

No, the cross product is only valid in three-dimensional coordinate systems. It is not defined in two-dimensional or higher-dimensional coordinate systems. Additionally, the cross product may have different formulas in different coordinate systems.

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