Crush Strength Of Donut Shaped 1.5 x 1.5 Square Tubing

In summary: Hi and thanks for responding. I will be using casters where the wheel is about 3/4" wide. So no, they will not be rolling and supporting the vertical walls.
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pedalquickly
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Hi All, I am working on a project where I am using a donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing. It is mild steel and I am assuming it has a 16 gauge wall thickness. I bought this already fabricated and don't know for sure (its possible its 14 gauge). The outside dimension of the donut is 89.5". I am using this as a base for a rotating small gazebo. This donut will sit on top of twenty 3" casters, The casters are inverted with the wheels up. I will have a central pivot to keep the donut on track.

My question is at what point weightwise will the tubing begin to flatten or distort?
Thanks!
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There are two ways that I can interpret your question:

1) The ring will flatten so as to conform to the base under the weight of you standing on it. If you set it on a concrete base, and that concrete is well placed, the ring will be straight.
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2) Will the weight of the gazebo crush the 1.5 X 1.5 tubing into 0.12 X 3 flattened tubing? Without running a detailed calculation, you would need several thousand pounds force on one caster to flatten the tubing. Any normal caster would be crushed before flattening the tubing.

This steel ring needs a flat concrete base to be properly supported. Concentrate your efforts on making sure that the concrete base is as flat as possible. Setting it on the ground, on gravel, or on posts would be a serious mistake.
 
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Hi jrmichler. Thanks for the response. Your # 2 response is what I'm looking for I think. I'll explain further: I will make a circular concrete footing. I will mount the casters inverted with wheels facing upward. The tops of the wheels will be level and on a flat plane. The donut will sit on top of those wheels. The donut will be kept aligned by a central pivot point and alowed to rotate. Approximately how much weight can the circular shaped square tubing withstand before it starts to deform into a .12 x 3 tubing as you described.
Thanks Again!
 
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pedalquickly said:
Approximately how much weight can the circular shaped square tubing withstand before it starts to deform?
Will the wheels be rolling on both vertical walls of the tubing?
If their width is much less than the 1.5-inch width of the horizontal surface of the tube, that surface could bend transversely.
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Lnewqban said:
Will the wheels be rolling on both vertical walls of the tubing?
If their width is much less than the 1.5-inch width of the horizontal surface of the tube, that surface could bend transversely.View attachment 324942
Hi and thanks for responding. I will be using casters where the wheel is about 3/4" wide. So no , they will not be rolling and supporting the vertical walls.
 

1. What is the definition of crush strength?

Crush strength refers to the amount of force or pressure that a material can withstand before it starts to deform or break.

2. How is the crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing determined?

The crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing is typically determined through laboratory testing, where the tubing is subjected to increasing levels of pressure until it reaches its breaking point.

3. What factors can affect the crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing?

The crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing can be influenced by various factors such as the material used, the thickness and diameter of the tubing, and the manufacturing process.

4. What is the importance of knowing the crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing?

Knowing the crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing is important in determining its suitability for different applications. It can also help in ensuring the safety and structural integrity of any structures that use this type of tubing.

5. How can the crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing be improved?

The crush strength of donut shaped 1.5 x 1.5 square tubing can be improved by using stronger and more durable materials, increasing the thickness of the tubing, and using better manufacturing techniques to ensure uniformity and consistency in the tubing's strength.

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