Dark energy is intrinsic to the space itself

In summary, the article discusses the concept of dark energy and its behavior in the expanding universe. This energy is thought to be intrinsic to space itself and its density remains constant as space expands. This leads to the accelerated expansion of the universe that is observed today. However, there are still questions about where the extra new space comes from and what creates it. The article also mentions that there are other possibilities for dark energy, such as a scalar field, and that the concept of space as discrete particles is personal speculation.
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I was reading the following article.

Dark energy is thought to be different, though. Rather than being a type of particle, it appears to behave as though it were a type of energy intrinsic to space itself. As space expands, the dark energy density remains constant, rather than decreasing or increasing. As a result, after the Universe has expanded for long enough, dark energy comes to dominate the energy budget of the Universe. As time goes on, it becomes progressively more dominant over the other components, leading to the accelerated expansion we observe today.
Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...t-which-would-lead-to-a-revolution-in-physics

How come the density of dark energy remains constant? Yes, if it's intrinsic to the space itself and more space is created when the expansion takes place then it's understandable that its density should remain constant. But then the question is where does the extra new space come from? What creates it? Could you please help me with it? Thanks, in advance?
 
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PainterGuy said:
But then the question is where does the extra new space come from? What creates it?
The whole universe is expanding. That means that its volume increases. But there is nothing outside the universe, so the volume doesn't "come from" anything.
 
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But then the question is where does the extra new space come from? What creates it?
Space is not a material thing that needs to be created. It's just a bit more general notion of distance between objects. When you separate two things, one way or another, you don't create anything in-between them. Yet, there is now 'more' space.
With dark energy, what confounds is our everyday intuition that stationary things don't start moving apart unless there's some unbalanced force involved. But it doesn't have to be true. It might just be that it is natural for things to accelerate apart, and the faster the more distant they are. But it is such a very, very, very tiny effect that it gets swamped by local forces. So we have no common-sense reason to think that it is a natural state of affairs to see distant objects accelerate away. And yet, on large enough scales, that's exactly what is observed.
Once we grant that, we can turn the question on its head, and instead of asking where does the thing 'pushing' objects apart come from, we can ask why certain things don't accelerate apart - like they should be doing. And that's much easier to answer with more palatable intuitions - it's because this system is bound by gravity, this system is bound by electromagnetic forces, this system is bound by... etc.
 
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PainterGuy said:
I was reading the following article.
That article is a pop science article, and is not a good source if you actually want to learn the science.

PainterGuy said:
How come the density of dark energy remains constant?
We assume it is constant in our models because we have no evidence to suggest that it isn't, and it being constant is the simplest possibility. But it is not the only possibility; one can construct models in which there is a scalar field that acts like "dark energy" in its effects (causing accelerated expansion of the universe) but does not have a constant density everywhere.
 
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Space is not a material thing that needs to be created. It's just a bit more general notion of distance between objects. When you separate two things, one way or another, you don't create anything in-between them. Yet, there is now 'more' space.

Thank you.

But if the space is discrete and made up of infinitesimally small particles or whatever, then more space would mean more discrete particles. I was thinking more along these lines earlier. Could you please guide me?
 
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PainterGuy said:
if the space is discrete and made up of infinitesimally small particles or whatever
This is personal speculation and is off limits here.
 
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1. What is dark energy?

Dark energy is a hypothetical form of energy that is thought to make up about 68% of the total energy in the universe. It is believed to be responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe.

2. How is dark energy different from dark matter?

Dark energy and dark matter are two separate concepts. While dark energy is thought to be a form of energy that permeates all of space, dark matter is a type of matter that does not interact with light and is only detectable through its gravitational effects.

3. How is dark energy intrinsic to space itself?

Dark energy is believed to be a property of space itself, meaning that it is present throughout the entire universe and is not confined to any particular region. It is thought to be a fundamental part of the fabric of space.

4. What evidence do we have for the existence of dark energy?

One of the main pieces of evidence for dark energy is the observation of the accelerating expansion of the universe. This was first discovered in the late 1990s through observations of distant supernovae. Other evidence includes the cosmic microwave background radiation and the large-scale structure of the universe.

5. How does dark energy affect the future of the universe?

Based on current theories, dark energy is expected to continue driving the expansion of the universe, causing it to expand at an increasingly faster rate. This means that in the far future, the universe will continue to expand and cool, eventually leading to a state of maximum entropy known as the "heat death" of the universe.

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