De broglie wavelength and lorentz contraction

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the quantum mechanical de Broglie wavelength and relativity's contraction of matter. The formula for the de Broglie wavelength is different from the formula for length contraction in relativity. Additionally, there is no "proper length" for a particle at rest, as it would have an infinite wavelength. The de Broglie formula is valid in both relativistic and non-relativistic wave mechanics. To fully understand the effects of velocity on length and time metrics, both wavelength and frequency changes need to be considered.
  • #1
serp777
117
6
Am I correct in thinking that the quantum mechanical de broglie wavelength explains relativity's contraction of matter? because lambda = h/p, as the velocity of say a proton increases, the momentum also increases, and the wavelength should get smaller because lim p-->infinity of h/p = 0. At very high velocities near light, the distance between amplitude peaks should shrink very close to the Planck length, and appear as a wall.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Qualitatively, the de Broglie wavelength indeed shrinks when particle increases velocity. However, this has nothing to do with relativity, because actually the formula for length contraction is

[tex]
l_{contracted} = \frac{l_0}{\gamma},
[/tex]

where [itex]\gamma=\frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}[/itex]. When the rod is at rest, the rod still has length, [itex]l_0[/itex], which is a finite number.

The de Broglie formula gives

[tex]
\lambda = \frac{h}{\gamma m v},
[/tex]

which is different function of velocity than the length in Lorentz contraction. Also, there is no "proper length" which the particle would have at rest. Rather, if the particle is at rest, there is no wave, or in other words, the wavelength is infinite.

The de Broglie formula is valid even in non-relativistic wave mechanics; so it seems this shrinking of the wavelength is not relativistic phenomenon.
 
  • #3
I think you would need to consider the effects of both [itex]\lambda[/itex] wavelength and frequency changes with velocity to arrive at the cumulative effect on both length and time metrics.
 

Related to De broglie wavelength and lorentz contraction

1. What is the De Broglie wavelength?

The De Broglie wavelength is a concept in quantum mechanics that describes the wavelength associated with a moving particle. It is based on the idea that particles, such as electrons, can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behaviors.

2. How is the De Broglie wavelength related to momentum and energy?

The De Broglie wavelength is inversely proportional to an object's momentum, meaning that as the momentum increases, the wavelength decreases. It is also directly proportional to the object's energy, meaning that as the energy increases, the wavelength also increases.

3. What is the significance of the De Broglie wavelength?

The De Broglie wavelength helps to explain the wave-like behavior of particles at the microscopic level. It also has practical applications in fields such as electron microscopy and particle accelerators.

4. What is Lorentz contraction?

Lorentz contraction, also known as length contraction, is a concept in special relativity that describes how the length of an object appears to be shorter when it is moving at high speeds. This is due to the distortion of space and time at high velocities.

5. How is Lorentz contraction related to the speed of light?

Lorentz contraction is a consequence of the fact that the speed of light is constant for all observers, regardless of their relative motion. As an object approaches the speed of light, its length in the direction of motion appears to shrink due to the effects of time dilation.

Similar threads

  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
28
Views
4K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • Other Physics Topics
Replies
5
Views
886
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
12
Views
1K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Quantum Interpretations and Foundations
Replies
8
Views
1K
Back
Top