Derivation of geodesic equation from the action - quick question

In summary: The curve that you choose is the path that extremizes the action.In summary, the conversation discusses the process of deriving the modified geodesic equation for a charged particle in general relativity. The first step involves understanding how to vary the vector potential, which is given by the formula ## \delta A_u = \partial_v A_u \delta x^v ##. The second step involves understanding how to vary the metric tensor, which is given by the formula ## \delta g_{uv}=\partial_{\alpha}g_{uv}\delta x^{\alpha}##. This variation is necessary in order to derive the geodesic equation via an action.
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binbagsss said:
Hi,

I am following this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesics_in_general_relativity

and all is good except how do we get ## \delta g_{uv}=\partial_{\alpha}g_{uv}\delta x^{\alpha}##

Many thanks

Similarly if I want to derive the modified geodesic equation obeyed by a charged particle of some given charge as well as some given mass I need to vary ##\delta A_u ## the vector potential, and the first hint given is that first of all you need to explain why:

## \delta A_u = \partial_v A_u \delta x^v ##

where ## \partial_v = \frac{\partial}{\partial x^v}##

I was perhaps thinking it uses the chain rule and then the product rule, since each term would need be varied wrt ##x^u## but can't really see this working:

## g_{uv}=\partial_{\alpha}g_{uv}dx^{\alpha}##


 
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binbagsss said:
how do we get ## \delta g_{uv}=\partial_{\alpha}g_{uv}\delta x^{\alpha}##
Here, ##g## is a function of ##x##, i.e. ##g_{\mu \nu} = g_{\mu \nu} (x^\alpha)##. ##\delta g_{\mu \nu}## should be regarded as the differential of the function ##g_{\mu \nu}##. How do you apply the differential operator ##d## to a function? It's the same thing here.
 
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davidge said:
##\delta g_{\mu \nu}## should be regarded as the differential of the function ##g_{\mu \nu}##.

No, it isn't. It's the variation of the function ##g_{\mu \nu}##. More specifically, it's the variation of ##g_{\mu \mu}## when you vary the curve ##x^\alpha## that you have chosen. If your question at this point is "what curve", then you need to go back and read, carefully, the section on deriving the geodesic equation via an action.
 
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Related to Derivation of geodesic equation from the action - quick question

1. What is the geodesic equation?

The geodesic equation is a mathematical expression that describes the shortest path between two points on a curved surface, such as a planet or a sphere. It is derived from the principle of least action, which states that the path taken by a system between two points is the one that minimizes the action, or the total energy, of the system.

2. How is the geodesic equation derived from the action?

The geodesic equation is derived from the action using the variational principle, which states that the path taken by a system between two points is the one that minimizes the variation of the action with respect to the path. This variation is calculated using the Euler-Lagrange equation, which results in the geodesic equation.

3. What is the action in the context of the geodesic equation?

The action is a mathematical concept that represents the total energy of a system and is defined as the integral of the Lagrangian, which is a function that describes the dynamics of the system. In the context of the geodesic equation, the action represents the total energy of a particle moving along a curved path.

4. Why is the geodesic equation important in physics?

The geodesic equation is important in physics because it allows us to understand and predict the motion of particles on curved surfaces, which is crucial in many fields such as general relativity, astrophysics, and cosmology. It also plays a role in understanding the behavior of light and other forms of energy in curved spacetime.

5. Are there any real-world applications of the geodesic equation?

Yes, there are many real-world applications of the geodesic equation. For example, it is used in GPS navigation systems to calculate the shortest distance between two points on the Earth's curved surface. It is also used in the design of spacecraft trajectories and in predicting the motion of celestial bodies in space.

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