Derivatives Help: Projectile Fired w/ Initial Speed Vo

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A projectile fired with an initial speed Vo at an angle Θ can be analyzed using the equations d = (Vo^2 sin2Θ)/g for distance and h = (Vo^2 sin^2Θ)/2g for height. The discussion highlights the importance of separating the horizontal and vertical motions, with horizontal velocity Vx = Vo cos(Θ) and vertical velocity Vy = Vo sin(Θ). The participant expresses confusion over combining these motions and the use of cotangent, emphasizing that the projectile's path is parabolic rather than linear. Clarification is provided that the maximum height occurs when the vertical velocity is zero, and the horizontal distance is maximized when the projectile returns to the ground level. Understanding these principles is essential for solving projectile motion problems effectively.
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Homework Statement





A projectile is fired with initial speed Vo at an angle Θ above the horizontal over flat ground.

a. show that the distance d that the projectile goes and height h reached by the projectile are given by:

d = (Vo^2 sin2Θ)/g
h = (Vo^2 sin^2Θ)/2g

Homework Equations



X = VT

Vx = V(cosΘ)
Vy = V(sinΘ)

T = d / Vo(sinΘ)

The Attempt at a Solution



d = (Vo^2 sin2Θ)/g
Vt = (Vo^2 sin2Θ)/g
(Vocos(Θ))(d / Vosin(Θ)) = (Vo^2 sin2Θ)/g

dcot(Θ) = (Vo^2 sin(2Θ)/g
dcot(Θ) = (Vo^2 * 2sin(Θ)cos(Θ))/g

Then this is where I get lost.

If I do divide cotangent of theta then would distance be proved.
I haven't started on height yet.
 
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Gabriel1234 said:
X = VT

Vx = V(cosΘ)
Vy = V(sinΘ)

T = d / Vo(sinΘ)
The last equation is not correct.
 
The only acceleration is -g in the y direction, the initial position is (0,0), and the initial velocity is v_x= V_0 cos(\theta), v_y= V_0 sin(\theta):

a_x= 0, a_y= -g

v_x= V_0 cos(\theta), v_y= -gt+ V_0 sin(\theta)

x= V_0 cos(\theta)t+ 0, -(g/2)t^2+ V_0 sin(\theta)+ 0.

Since the problem asks for the x and y distances separately, I see no reason to combine x and y and so no reason to look at tan(\theta) or cot(\theta). The projectile is NOT moving in a straight line so there is no need to look for a "slope".

(y will be largest when v_y= 0. x will be largest when y= 0 again.)
 
HallsofIvy said:
(y will be largest when v_y= 0. x will be largest when y= 0 again.)

Yes. Think about it like this: What is the slope of the parabola at its maximum?
It appears as though you are just trying to throw equations together, and work backwards, to get the answer. Take a minute and think about the problem.
 
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