Determine Mass of object for no motion on ramp

In summary, the problem involves two blocks connected by a rope over a pulley, with one block hanging off an inclined plane. The given information includes the mass of the second block, the angle of the incline, and the coefficient of static friction between the first block and the inclined board. The task is to determine the maximum mass of the first block that will keep both blocks stationary. To solve this, a free body diagram is drawn for each block, and the sum of forces in the perpendicular and parallel directions is set equal to 0. After algebraic manipulation, the maximum mass of the first block is found to be 6.8kg, which is different from the listed answer of 14kg.
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Homework Statement


Two blocks are joined together with a rope that runs over the pulley. The mass of m2 is 5kg and the incline is 35 degrees (m2 hangs off the edge of the ramp, pulling on m1). The coefficient of static friction between mass 1 and the inclined board is 0.2. Determine the largest mass for m1, so that both blocks remain stationary. (m1 does not slide down).

Homework Equations


f=ma
Force friction=coefficient(Force normal)

The Attempt at a Solution


Force friction = 0.2(Fn)
=0.2(m)(g)(cos35)
Force Friction = 1.61m

Because block 2 pulls with 49N of force [5(9.8)], then I assume the force of friction on block 1 is 49N. However, gravity pulls down on the block 1 as well (Fgx=m9.8sin35=5.62m). So:
Ff=1.61m
49N-5.62m=1.61m
Gravity reduces the amount of friction required to hold block 1 in place.
Therefore:
m=49/7.23
m=6.8kg

The listed answer is 14kg.
What am I doing wrong?

Thank You
 
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Welcome to PF SinghTJay!

Try to be systematic about this. Draw a free body diagram for each block (i.e. a diagram with just the block and the forces acting on that block, with all other elements of the system removed). For block 2, there are no horizontal forces acting on it, and the block is not accelerating, which means the net force must be 0 in the vertical direction. This means that the vertical forces sum to 0. The two vertical forces are tension T upward and weight m2g downward. So:

T - m2g = 0

T = m2g

The force due to tension in the rope is therefore m2g.

Now draw a free body diagram for block 1. Consider the two directions "perpendiculiar to the plane" and parallel to the plane. In the perpendicular direction two forces act: 1. the perpendicular component of the weight, downward, and 2. the normal force, upward. These two must balance, hence Fn = m1gcos(35°) as you have written.

In the direction parallel to the plane, the forces must balance. Two forces act up the plane: 1. Tension, T, and 2. Friction, Ff, which tries to prevent the block from sliding down the plane. A third force 3. is gravity i.e. the component of the weight that is parallel to the plane. So the sum of forces is given by:

T + μm1gcos(35°) - m1gsin(35°) = 0

Can you take it from here? I would advice solving for m1 algebraically first before plugging in numbers. It just makes things cleaner.
 

Related to Determine Mass of object for no motion on ramp

1. How do you determine the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp?

To determine the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp, you will need to use the formula: mass = force / acceleration. This means that you will need to measure the force of gravity pulling on the object and the acceleration of the object down the ramp. Once you have these measurements, you can plug them into the formula to calculate the mass of the object.

2. What equipment is needed to determine the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp?

To determine the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp, you will need a ramp, a pulley system, weights or other objects to create a force, a measuring tool to determine the length of the ramp, and a timer to measure the acceleration of the object down the ramp.

3. Why is it important to determine the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp?

Determining the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp is important because it allows you to accurately measure the mass of an object without the influence of friction or other external forces. This can be useful in many scientific experiments and calculations.

4. What are some potential sources of error when determining the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp?

Some potential sources of error when determining the mass of an object for no motion on a ramp include inaccurate measurements of the ramp length, human error in timing the acceleration of the object, and friction or other external forces acting on the object.

5. What other methods can be used to determine the mass of an object besides using a ramp?

There are many other methods that can be used to determine the mass of an object, including using a balance or scale, measuring the volume of the object and using its density, and using the time it takes for the object to fall a certain distance under the influence of gravity. Each method may be more suitable for different types of objects and situations.

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