Deviation of a gas from ideal gas behaviour

In summary, the question is asking for the pressure at which a gas of argon atoms will deviate from ideal gas behavior due to finite atom size at a temperature of 300 K. The answer given is of order 10^9 Pa, but without a specific magnitude of deviation, it is difficult to accurately answer the question. Further calculations would be needed to determine a more realistic pressure at which deviations would occur.
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RightFresh
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Hi all, I have a question from a tutorial sheet that I'm stuck with. The question is

Estimate the pressure at which a gas of argon atoms, at a temperature of 300 K, will begin to show deviations from the ideal gas behaviour due to the finite size of the atoms. Answer: Of order 10^9 Pa.

So I tried taylor expanding the hard sphere gas equation: P'(V-b)=NkT, to get P'=P(1+b/V) to first order, where P is the ideal gas pressure. However, I don't know if this is the right approach or just what to do next really. Could someone point me in the right direction please?
 
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RightFresh said:
begin to show deviations from the ideal gas behaviour
What magnitude of deviations?
RightFresh said:
Answer: Of order 10^9 Pa.
Please check this number --- it's somewhat beyond ridiculous.
 
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It just says deviations & that's the answer given
 
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Bystander said:
What magnitude of deviations?

Please check this number --- it's somewhat beyond ridiculous.
It just says deviations & that's the answer given
 
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Without some specification of magnitude of departure, there's no way to answer the question. You could make an assumption of 0.1% (or 0.3 to perhaps 1 % for ordinary measurement accuracies), and at the fixed temperature calculate a pressure at which the excluded volume reached that value, but you're never going to see 109 Pa for such a calculation.
 

1. What is the ideal gas law?

The ideal gas law is a mathematical equation that describes the relationship between the pressure, volume, temperature, and number of moles of an ideal gas. It is written as PV = nRT, where P is pressure, V is volume, n is the number of moles, R is the ideal gas constant, and T is temperature.

2. What is deviation from ideal gas behaviour?

Deviation from ideal gas behaviour refers to the differences between the predictions of the ideal gas law and the actual behavior of real gases. Real gases do not always behave exactly as predicted by the ideal gas law, especially at high pressures or low temperatures.

3. What causes deviation from ideal gas behaviour?

Deviation from ideal gas behaviour is caused by the intermolecular forces between gas molecules. At high pressures and low temperatures, these forces become significant and can affect the behavior of the gas. Additionally, the size and shape of gas molecules can also contribute to deviation from ideal gas behavior.

4. How is deviation from ideal gas behaviour measured?

Deviation from ideal gas behaviour is measured by comparing the values predicted by the ideal gas law to experimental data. If there is a significant difference between the predicted values and the experimental values, then it can be concluded that there is a deviation from ideal gas behavior.

5. What are some real-life examples of deviation from ideal gas behaviour?

Some real-life examples of deviation from ideal gas behaviour include the liquefaction of gases at low temperatures and high pressures, the behavior of real gases in non-ideal conditions such as in industrial processes, and the deviation of real gas mixtures from the ideal gas law due to interactions between different gas molecules.

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