Did I correctly prove the divergence of this series?

In summary, the conversation discusses verifying the divergence of an infinite series using the n-th term test and algebraic manipulation. The series in question is (2^(n)+1)/2^(n+1), and the conversation confirms that the n-th term test is the easiest approach to use. The conversation also discusses simplifying the series using algebra and confirms that the algebraic manipulations used are correct.
  • #1
mathnoobie
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Homework Statement


Verify that the infinite series diverges.
I have the series from n=1 to infinity of (2^(n)+1/2^(n+1)


Homework Equations


Nth term test(This is the way the book did it but I did it used the geometric series test
and I just want to verify if my Algebra was correct)


The Attempt at a Solution


First I split the series into two separate series and let the series go from n=0 to infinity.
So I have 2^(n+1)/2^(n+2) add 1/2^(n+2).
I believe I can then bring down the some of the exponents and simplify to
2*2^n/4*2^n add 1/4*2^n
so for the first series I let a=1/2 and r=1^n
because |r|=|1| is greater than or equal to 1, the series diverges.
I completely ignored the second series that I made because its irrelevant to simplify
as I already know the first series diverges.

Is this proof valid and was my algebra correct?
 
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  • #2
mathnoobie said:

Homework Statement


Verify that the infinite series diverges.
I have the series from n=1 to infinity of (2^(n)+1/2^(n+1)
Is this your series?

$$ \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \left(2^n + \frac{1}{2^{n+1}}\right)$$

You are missing a right paren, so I'm not sure what you intended.

The easiest approach is the n-th term test for divergence. It seems like a lot of extra work to try to make this series look like a geometric series, for which the general term is arn.
mathnoobie said:

Homework Equations


Nth term test(This is the way the book did it but I did it used the geometric series test
and I just want to verify if my Algebra was correct)

The Attempt at a Solution


First I split the series into two separate series and let the series go from n=0 to infinity.
So I have 2^(n+1)/2^(n+2) add 1/2^(n+2).
I believe I can then bring down the some of the exponents and simplify to
2*2^n/4*2^n add 1/4*2^n
so for the first series I let a=1/2 and r=1^n
because |r|=|1| is greater than or equal to 1, the series diverges.
I completely ignored the second series that I made because its irrelevant to simplify
as I already know the first series diverges.

Is this proof valid and was my algebra correct?
 
  • #3
Mark44 said:
Is this your series?

$$ \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \left(2^n + \frac{1}{2^{n+1}}\right)$$

You are missing a right paren, so I'm not sure what you intended.

The easiest approach is the n-th term test for divergence. It seems like a lot of extra work to try to make this series look like a geometric series, for which the general term is arn.

(2^(n)+1)/2^(n+1)

I apologize for the confusion, that is my series.
I agree that the easiest approach is the n-th term test, however I don't always see the easiest approach every single time.
The problem with series is that you can do the wrong thing and still get the right answer, I just want to make sure my proof was right
since I got the right answer.
 
  • #4
mathnoobie said:
I agree that the easiest approach is the n-th term test, however I don't always see the easiest approach every single time.

I think that if you're given a series, that the first thing you should always try is the n-th term test. If you don't find it using that, then you can move on. But the n-th term test is usually a lot easier than the other tests.
 
  • #5
micromass said:
I think that if you're given a series, that the first thing you should always try is the n-th term test. If you don't find it using that, then you can move on. But the n-th term test is usually a lot easier than the other tests.

Thank you for the advice, I will always do that from now on. I kinda saw that I should've done that halfway through the problem but I thought to myself why not finish it.

Could anyone though please confirm if my Algebra was correct? I have a test coming up and there will be geometric series that require this kind of algebraic manipulation and I just want to know if everything I did algebraically was correct.
I mostly just need to know if the exponent rule I did was right.
Like when you have 2^(n+2), its actually 2^2 * 2^n. This is a valid right?
 
  • #6
mathnoobie said:
(2^(n)+1)/2^(n+1)
Like so:
So this is your series.
$$ \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \left( \frac{2^n + 1}{2^{n+1}} \right)$$
mathnoobie said:
I apologize for the confusion, that is my series.
I agree that the easiest approach is the n-th term test, however I don't always see the easiest approach every single time.
But you should try the easy approaches first, and the n-th term test for divergence is probably the easiest of all the tests.
mathnoobie said:
The problem with series is that you can do the wrong thing and still get the right answer, I just want to make sure my proof was right
since I got the right answer.

Here's from your first post...
mathnoobie said:
First I split the series into two separate series and let the series go from n=0 to infinity.
So I have 2^(n+1)/2^(n+2) add 1/2^(n+2).
Wouldn't it have been simpler to leave the index starting from 1?
Then you would have 2^n/(2^(n + 1)) + 1/(2^(n + 1)).
mathnoobie said:
I believe I can then bring down the some of the exponents and simplify to
2*2^n/4*2^n add 1/4*2^n
Use + instead of "add".
2^n/(2^(n + 1)) + 1/(2^(n + 1)) = 1/2 + 1/(2^(n + 1)).

The first part of what you have is correct, but can be greatly simplified.
2*2^n/4*2^n = 1/2
mathnoobie said:
so for the first series I let a=1/2 and r=1^n
No. For a geometric series r has to be a constant. Of course, for any finite n, 1^n is 1, so was this a typo?

Your first series is $$ \sum_{n = 1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2} $$
This is not a geometric series.

mathnoobie said:
because |r|=|1| is greater than or equal to 1, the series diverges.
I completely ignored the second series that I made because its irrelevant to simplify
as I already know the first series diverges.
 
  • #7
mathnoobie said:
Thank you for the advice, I will always do that from now on. I kinda saw that I should've done that halfway through the problem but I thought to myself why not finish it.

Could anyone though please confirm if my Algebra was correct? I have a test coming up and there will be geometric series that require this kind of algebraic manipulation and I just want to know if everything I did algebraically was correct.
I mostly just need to know if the exponent rule I did was right.
Like when you have 2^(n+2), its actually 2^2 * 2^n. This is a valid right?

Your algebra was perfectly fine.

But there was a mistake in the proof: you split the series in two parts

[tex]\sum{a_n+b_n}=\sum a_n +\sum b_n[/tex]

and deduce from that that a series in the right hand side diverges, thus the left-hand side diverges as well. This is not true. For example

[tex]\sum{1-1}=\sum 1 - \sum 1[/tex]

the two series in the right-hand side diverge, but the left-hand side does not diverge.

The rule

[tex]\sum{a_n+b_n}=\sum a_n +\sum b_n[/tex]

only holds if both [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] as [itex]\sum b_n[/itex] converge. If both diverge, then there is nothing that can be said.
 
  • #8
Thank you guys so much for the thorough explanations! I really need to review my property of series. My biggest concern was the algebra but thankfully I did that right.
As for the use of add, I thought it would be easier to read if I used add instead of +(not sure why).
 
  • #9
micromass said:
Your algebra was perfectly fine.

But there was a mistake in the proof: you split the series in two parts

[tex]\sum{a_n+b_n}=\sum a_n +\sum b_n[/tex]

and deduce from that that a series in the right hand side diverges, thus the left-hand side diverges as well. This is not true. For example

[tex]\sum{1-1}=\sum 1 - \sum 1[/tex]

the two series in the right-hand side diverge, but the left-hand side does not diverge.

The rule

[tex]\sum{a_n+b_n}=\sum a_n +\sum b_n[/tex]

only holds if both [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] as [itex]\sum b_n[/itex] converge. If both diverge, then there is nothing that can be said.
Well, if [itex]a_n> 0[/itex], [itex]b_n> 0[/itex], and that is the situation here, and either [itex]\sum a_n[/itex], or [itex]\sum b_n[/itex], or both diverge, then [itex]\sum (a_n+ b_n)[/itex] diverges.
 
  • #10
One point that micromass made was very pertinent - about splitting series into parts and when you can do that. That thought came to mind while I was writing a response, but I didn't include it, so I'm glad he did.
 

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1. What is the definition of divergence of a series?

The divergence of a series is a mathematical concept that refers to the behavior of a series as its terms continue to increase. If the terms of a series become infinitely large, the series is said to diverge. This is in contrast to a convergent series, where the terms approach a finite limit as the series continues.

2. How do I prove the divergence of a series?

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No, a series can only be either convergent or divergent. If a series' terms approach a finite limit, it is convergent. If the terms become infinitely large, it is divergent.

5. Why is proving divergence important in mathematics?

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