Direction of The Force of a Wall Exerted on a Rod

In summary, the direction of the force in a swiveling rod attached to a wall can vary depending on the situation. The recipe for determining the direction is to find the vertical and horizontal components and use those to calculate the direction. The pictures provided are not wrong, but the second one may be misleading. In general, if a rod is freely jointed at the ends and not subjected to forces anywhere else, the net force at each end must act along the rod, but if the rod has weight, the force can be at any angle. If the rod is fixed to the wall, the force can also be at any angle, while if the rod is leaning against a frictionless wall, the force can only be normal to the wall
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A rod is attached to a wall in such a way it can swivel. In this case: In which direction does the force (of the wall on the rod) point to?
Here are two examples (see under attached files), but the the direction of the force is different. Why? Is maybe one of the pictures wrong?
In first example I drew the force with blue as I would draw force diagram.

Also: What is the recipe here? How do we determine the direction?
 

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bolzano95 said:

Homework Statement


A rod is attached to a wall in such a way it can swivel. In this case: In which direction does the force (of the wall on the rod) point to?
Here are two examples (see under attached files), but the the direction of the force is different. Why? Is maybe one of the pictures wrong?

Also: What is the recipe here? How do we determine the direction?
Different situations demand different forces having different directions. Some people think that the force is directed along the rod in such problems. That is not necessarily correct. The recipe is to find the vertical and horizontal components and get the direction from these. This is a static equilibrium problem therefore, the sum of all the forces and torques must be zero.

On edit: Should you require additional help with these problems, please post the relevant equations and your attempt at a solution as per the homework template.
 
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bolzano95 said:
Is maybe one of the pictures wrong?
Not wrong, exactly, but image 2 is certainly misleading. The force F at the joint is shown as horizontal, but since no angles are given explicitly you should not trust that. Indeed, if you take moments about the other end of the rod then only F and mg have any torque, and both seem to be anticlockwise.

In general, if a rod is freely jointed at the ends and not subjected to forces anywhere else (so considered weightless) then the net force at each end must act along the rod. But in these examples the rods have weight.
 
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If the rod is fixed to the wall the force can be at any angle, as others have said.

If you have a rod learning against a frictionless wall or surface then the force can only be normal to the wall.
 

1. What is the direction of the force exerted by a wall on a rod?

The direction of the force exerted by a wall on a rod is perpendicular to the surface of the wall. In other words, it is directed away from the wall and towards the rod.

2. Does the direction of the force change if the rod is angled?

Yes, the direction of the force exerted by the wall on the rod will change if the rod is angled. The force will still be perpendicular to the surface of the wall, but it will be at an angle to the rod's orientation.

3. How can the direction of the force be determined?

The direction of the force can be determined by drawing a free-body diagram of the rod and analyzing the forces acting on it. The force exerted by the wall will be represented by an arrow pointing away from the wall and towards the rod.

4. Is the direction of the force always the same?

No, the direction of the force exerted by the wall on the rod can change depending on the orientation and position of the rod in relation to the wall. It will always be perpendicular to the surface of the wall, but the angle at which it is exerted may vary.

5. How does the direction of the force affect the stability of the rod?

The direction of the force exerted by the wall is an important factor in determining the stability of the rod. If the force is directed towards the center of mass of the rod, it will help keep the rod in place and maintain its stability. However, if the force is directed away from the center of mass, it may cause the rod to become unbalanced and potentially fall over.

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