Does an electron have kinetic energy when attached to a proton?

In summary: That is, if we could measure the kinetic energy of all the electrons in the box at every moment, we would get a number that is not zero but is smaller than the total energy of the system.The expected value of kinetic energy is smaller than the total energy of the system.
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does an electron have kinetic energy when attached to a proton? if not, what is it transformed into?
 
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Lolicon said:
does an electron have kinetic energy when attached to a proton? if not, what is it transformed into?
A proton and electron bound together is called a hydrogen atom. The hydrogen atom has a set of possible energies, each of which is the sum of the kinetic energy and potential energy.
 
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Yes, it has KE
 
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There is a nice result called the Virial theorem which says that if the potential energy of interaction between two bound particles goes as ##V(r) = \lambda r^n##, then the potential and kinetic energies of that system are related via ##2 \langle T \rangle = n \langle V \rangle ##. For an electrostatic interaction that potential has ##n=-1##, so ##2\langle T \rangle = - \langle V \rangle##. Equivalently, the total energy is ##E = \langle T \rangle + \langle V \rangle = - \langle T \rangle = \langle V \rangle/2##.

The energy eigenvalues of a hydrogen atom look like$$E = \frac{-13.6 \text{eV}}{n^2}$$For instance at the ground state, ##n=1##, then ##E = -13.6 \text{eV}##, ##\langle V \rangle = -27.2 \text{eV}## and ##\langle T \rangle = 13.6 \text{eV}##. As you go up energy levels, the potential energy and total energy increase, whilst the kinetic energy decreases.
 
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The energy eigenvalues of a hydrogen atom look like$$E = \frac{-13.6 \text{eV}}{n^2}$$For instance at the ground state, ##n=1##, then ##E = -13.6 \text{eV}##, ##V = -27.2 \text{eV}## and ##T = 13.6 \text{eV}##. As you go up energy levels, the potential energy and total energy increase, whilst the kinetic energy decreases.

Those are, of course, the expected values of ##T## and ##V## for a QM system.
 
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Those are, of course, the expected values of ##T## and ##V## for a QM system.

Thanks, give me two seconds and I'll put the langles and the rangles where they belong :wink:
 
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Possible nitpick about terminology: "expectation value" is the term that I've always seen in English-language QM textbooks, journal articles, etc., at least in the US.

To me, "expected value" has the connotation "It has a definite value, and this is what I expect it to be." Of course, that's not what we're talking about here.
 
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Whenever an electron is moving in some limited space, as when orbiting an atom or put in a "box", it has a nonzero expectation value of kinetic energy.
 

1. What is an electron and a proton?

An electron is a subatomic particle with a negative charge that orbits the nucleus of an atom. A proton is a subatomic particle with a positive charge that is located in the nucleus of an atom.

2. Does an electron have kinetic energy when attached to a proton?

Yes, an electron has kinetic energy when attached to a proton. This is because the electron is constantly moving in its orbit around the nucleus, which means it has both potential and kinetic energy.

3. How does an electron's kinetic energy change when it is attached to a proton?

The electron's kinetic energy does not change when it is attached to a proton. It remains the same as it moves in its orbit around the nucleus.

4. Can an electron have kinetic energy when it is not attached to a proton?

Yes, an electron can have kinetic energy even when it is not attached to a proton. This is because electrons can also exist outside of an atom and can have kinetic energy through their movement in space.

5. How does the kinetic energy of an electron affect its behavior when attached to a proton?

The kinetic energy of an electron does not directly affect its behavior when attached to a proton. However, it does play a role in determining the electron's position and movement within its orbit around the nucleus.

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