Double slit experiment with electrons - detector at one slit

In summary, the author wrote about a demonstration of single electron interference using a laser pointer and three pencil leads. He was surprised and pleased with the results.
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fizixfan
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Hello,

I'm new here, but I've been researching this subject for several months now. I'm especially interested in the double-slit experiment performed with one electron at a time, particularly with the detection apparatus turned ON.

I've found this statement, or something very much like it, in numerous blogs and websites (Starts with a Bang, Empirical Zeal, Dr. Quantum, etc.):

“…we can do one more experiment: this time, we shoot electrons one-at-a-time at this wall, but at each slit, we shine a bit of light, and detect which slit the electron goes through. As each electron is fired, one (but never both) of the detectors goes off, telling you which slit the electron went through. But — and here’s the crazy part — the pattern on the screen now shows no interference, and instead we just get two separate peaks corresponding to the two “classical”, particle-like paths the electrons could have taken.” scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2009/06/01/a-tale-of-two-slits/‎

Here is an illustration of the result:
Double slit experiment eletrons detector on.jpg


So, here is my question, and it is at the very nub of my gist, and possibly even at the heart of quantum physics:

Where is the PROOF, i.e., a link to the actual experiment which shows that when we detect, or record, or measure the electrons going through the slits, we get two “bands” on the screen? I have never seen a single reference to any experiment which clearly demonstrates this. If and when I do, I will be convinced that this actually does happen, and I can die a happy man. Otherwise, it is just unsubstantiated conjecture (and I'm sure it's not). Believe me, I really DO want to be convinced. So, can anyone point me the way to the actual, physical experiment where the detectors are turned on, the interference pattern collapses and two bands, or peaks, appear on the screen? I'm 64, so I'd like to solve this final piece of the puzzle some time before I kick the bucket.

Thanks to anyone who has the answer!

Fizixfan
 
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fizixfan said:
Where is the PROOF, i.e., a link to the actual experiment which shows that when we detect, or record, or measure the electrons going through the slits, we get two “bands” on the screen?


Google for "Demonstration of Single-Electron Buildup of an Interference Pattern" and you'll eventually find a paper by Tonomura, Matsuda, Kawaska, and Ezawa with both a discussion of the electron case and some discussion of previous experiments in this area.
 
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Nugatory said:
Google for "Demonstration of Single-Electron Buildup of an Interference Pattern" and you'll eventually find a paper by Tonomura, Matsuda, Kawaska, and Ezawa with both a discussion of the electron case and some discussion of previous experiments in this area.
I don't think this paper shows the disappearing of interference when the path of electrons is measured. I have not yet seen that either.
 
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Nugatory said:
Google for "Demonstration of Single-Electron Buildup of an Interference Pattern" and you'll eventually find a paper by Tonomura, Matsuda, Kawaska, and Ezawa with both a discussion of the electron case and some discussion of previous experiments in this area.

Thanks for this reference Nugatory, but I think DParlevliet is right. This paper does not show the disappearing of interference when the path of electrons is measured. It only shows the buildup of an interference pattern using single electrons. It does not show the "two bands". And I believe it's Kawasaki, not Kawaska.

The search goes on...
 
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How about an atomic interferometer? See "Origin of quantum-mechanical complementarity probed by a 'which-way' experiment in an atom interferometer": Nature 395, 33-37 (3 September 1998) | doi:10.1038/25653; (1998).

http://www.atomwave.org/rmparticle/ao%20refs/aifm%20pdfs%20by%20group%20leaders/rempe%20%20pdfs/Rempe%20decoherence%201998.pdf
 
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Double slit experiment with a laser pointer

This is my own simple experiment using a 5 mW green laser pointer (532 nm) and three 0.5mm pencil leads placed about 0.3 mm apart. First I pointed the laser at the wall, which produced a bright point of light. Next, I shone the laser beam through the pencil leads at a distance of about 30 cm, and got a very distinct diffraction pattern on the wall. Over a distance of about 2.5 m it spread out some 15 cm. That’s pretty amazing for a laser beam, which can appear as a small spot on a wall 30 m away. I was surprised and very pleased to get such good results!

I realize this is only a replication of Thomas Young's original experiment in the early 1800s, but it did demonstrate to me the wave properties of light, and had implications for more sophisticated experiments with electrons.

Here are the apparatus and the results:
 

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UltrafastPED said:
How about an atomic interferometer? See "Origin of quantum-mechanical complementarity probed by a 'which-way' experiment in an atom interferometer": Nature 395, 33-37 (3 September 1998) | doi:10.1038/25653; (1998).

http://www.atomwave.org/rmparticle/ao%20refs/aifm%20pdfs%20by%20group%20leaders/rempe%20%20pdfs/Rempe%20decoherence%201998.pdf

Thanks UltrafastPED, I think this is what I've been looking for!
 
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BTW, nice setup for your laser pointer diffraction setup!

The last time I did a diffraction experiment it was with electrons through an ultrathin film of polycrystalline platinum (about 10 nm, or 25 atoms thick). You shoot a few electrons at a time through the film, and after a bit you can see the diffraction pattern for the polycrystalline platinum - you get rings because the little crystallites are oriented in all directions, as with powder x-ray diffraction.

The "few at a time" are distributed over a fairly large area: a pulse of 1,000 electrons is spread over a 200 micron diameter circle, and a pulse duration of about 300 femtoseconds, so on average each electron is only interacting with itself.

Or if you crank up the electron photo-emission rate, you can put lots of electrons through on each pulse, and the pattern develops fast enough to see with the naked eye on the phosphor screen.

However, I don't look to see "which atomic layer" the diffraction came from - you would need a very tiny probe for this! - so I don't have any examples of "which way" from my many experimental runs.
 
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Related to Double slit experiment with electrons - detector at one slit

1. What is the double slit experiment with electrons?

The double slit experiment with electrons is a well-known experiment in quantum mechanics that demonstrates the wave-like behavior of particles. In this experiment, electrons are fired one at a time through two parallel slits onto a screen, creating an interference pattern similar to that of waves.

2. How is the double slit experiment with electrons different from the classic double slit experiment?

The double slit experiment with electrons is different from the classic double slit experiment in that it uses electrons instead of light particles. This allows scientists to observe the wave-particle duality of electrons and further understand their behavior.

3. Why is there a detector at one of the slits in the double slit experiment with electrons?

The detector at one of the slits in the double slit experiment with electrons is used to determine which slit the electron passes through. This is done in order to observe the behavior of the electron when its path is known, as opposed to when it is not known.

4. What happens when a detector is placed at one slit in the double slit experiment with electrons?

When a detector is placed at one slit in the double slit experiment with electrons, the interference pattern disappears. This is because the detector determines which slit the electron passes through, collapsing the wave function and causing the electron to behave like a particle rather than a wave.

5. What does the double slit experiment with electrons tell us about the nature of particles?

The double slit experiment with electrons demonstrates the wave-particle duality of particles, showing that they can exhibit both wave-like and particle-like behavior. This challenges our traditional understanding of particles and highlights the complexities of quantum mechanics.

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