Electromagnetic blackhole violates 2nd law of thermodynamics?

In summary, there has been a lot of talk about a microwave "invisibility cloak" made with metamaterials. Basically, there is a way to rewrite electrodynamics to handle changes in refractive index of materials with GR like tools, creating a 'curved' background. Some even suggest that this could lead to the creation of 'black-hole' equivalents. However, this seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics, as it creates a "thermal diode". During a physics colloquium, the speaker didn't seem to understand this issue and the topic was moved on from. Now, there is an actual model of this created at a certain wavelength and in 2-D, but it still raises questions about the violation of
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I'm sure most people here have heard about the microwave "invisibility cloak" that was made with metamaterials. For those that haven't heard, basically electrodynamics can be rewritten to handle changes in refractive index of materials with GR like tools where instead the background is 'curved'. I even saw a physics colloquim about this, and the guy claimed that maybe even 'blackhole' equivalents could be made.

That seemed really strange to me, as it seems to violate the second law of thermodynamics. (for now you truly have a "thermal diode" it seems). I brought this up during Q&A and it turned into a rapid discussion with many professors offering guesses. Sadly the speaker didn't seem to understand the issue, and since his talk wasn't about these 'black-holes' anyway, we moved on.

But now, apparently someone has created an actual model (granted only at a certain wavelength and in 2-D)
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=electromagnetic-black-hole

Seriously, how does this not violate the second law of thermodynamics?
Actually, now that I think of it, the 'cloaking' would still allow light emitted from the center to reach the outside ... so that too seems to allow a "thermal diode" and cause problems as well.

How is this possible?
 
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The concept of an electromagnetic black hole does not necessarily violate the second law of thermodynamics. The second law states that the total entropy (or disorder) of a closed system will never decrease over time. In the case of an electromagnetic black hole, the system is not closed, as it is interacting with the surrounding environment. This interaction can lead to an increase in entropy, thus not violating the second law.

Additionally, the creation of an electromagnetic black hole does not necessarily lead to a violation of the second law. The creation of such a device would require a significant amount of energy and resources, which would also contribute to an increase in entropy.

Furthermore, the concept of an electromagnetic black hole is still theoretical and has not been fully proven or tested. It is important to consider all aspects and implications before concluding that it violates the second law of thermodynamics. Scientific understanding and technology are constantly evolving, and what may seem impossible now may become a reality in the future.
 

1. What is an electromagnetic blackhole?

An electromagnetic blackhole is a theoretical concept that suggests the existence of a region in space with such a strong electromagnetic field that it can trap and absorb all incoming electromagnetic radiation, including light.

2. How does an electromagnetic blackhole violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics?

The 2nd law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy (or disorder) of a closed system will always increase over time. However, an electromagnetic blackhole, by trapping and absorbing all incoming radiation, would eventually have a lower entropy than its surrounding environment, which would go against the 2nd law.

3. Can an electromagnetic blackhole actually exist?

Currently, there is no conclusive evidence to suggest that electromagnetic blackholes exist in our universe. They are still a theoretical concept and have not been observed or proven to exist.

4. What would be the implications of the existence of an electromagnetic blackhole?

If an electromagnetic blackhole were to exist, it would challenge our understanding of the laws of thermodynamics and would require us to revise our current theories. It could also have significant consequences for the behavior of light and other forms of electromagnetic radiation in the universe.

5. Is there any ongoing research or experiments related to electromagnetic blackholes?

Yes, there are ongoing studies and experiments related to the possibility of electromagnetic blackholes. Some scientists are exploring the potential existence of these objects in the universe, while others are investigating alternative explanations for the observed phenomena that have been attributed to electromagnetic blackholes.

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