Emergence of much smaller stars in early Universe?

In summary, Dr. Molaro from the Trieste observatory believes that the "smaller than once thought" earliest stars contain carbon, due to the fact that they are part of a binary pair with a larger star. This extra carbon may have come from the earlier supernova explosion of the larger star.
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Anyone have any insight concerning the latest research underway at Heidelberg University... concerning the "smaller than once thought" earliest stars? Any thoughts on why these 'smaller than once thought stars' also contain carbon, when at this early stage of star formation in a very young Universe, they shouldn't yet?

http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse...g-message-about-the-end-of-the-dark-ages.html

Dr. Paolo Molaro from the Trieste observatory suspects that they belong to a special – completely new – class of original stars. Any thoughts?
 
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The most likely explanation I can think of is that the carbon must have originated from previous much more massive stars that were short lived
 
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High redshift quasar spectra suggest they produce surprisingly high amounts of carbon.
 
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Since quasars are probably the most energetic things in the universe other than the initial 'big bang', it does seem plausible that they could produce lighter elements such as carbon through fusion processes that are at present beyond our understanding.
Well, we do understand in the case of regular stars how that happens, and it doesn't seem unreasonable to suggest that conditions similar to a star core might occur within a quasar, or nearby.
 
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AtomicPunk said:
Anyone have any insight concerning the latest research underway at Heidelberg University... concerning the "smaller than once thought" earliest stars? Any thoughts on why these 'smaller than once thought stars' also contain carbon, when at this early stage of star formation in a very young Universe, they shouldn't yet?

http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse...g-message-about-the-end-of-the-dark-ages.html

Dr. Paolo Molaro from the Trieste observatory suspects that they belong to a special – completely new – class of original stars. Any thoughts?
That Uni Heidelberg press release is based on this article:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1504.05963

This article proposes a reasonable explanation for the earlier puzzle. The class of low-mass carbon rich stars were in a binary pair with a larger star which became what is called "AGB" (asymptotic giant branch).
AGB stars are not so massive that they explode as supernovae. But they are massive enough to develop helium-burning and make carbon. They also expel large quantities of their fusion products including carbon.

The Uni publicity department made the existence of these stars seem more mysterious than the actual professional journal article did. The journal article suggests an explanation and ties up the loose ends.
 
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Here is a google search for "AGB stars"
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=agb+star

Here are some lecture notes, an example of what the google search turns up:
http://www2.astro.psu.edu/users/rbc/a534/lec24.pdf

It describes the mechanism by which AGB stars expel fusion products. The AGB companion could be dumping carbon on its dwarf companion. At least the authors of the paper referred to in the press release think that is likely the way this class of stars got their extra carbon.

They were not formed with it, and they did not make it themselves. They got it during their life as member of a binary system.
 
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Concerning your third question, you might be interested in Rovelli's "Planck stars" paper (arXiv.org > gr-qc > arXiv:1401.6562), just in case you haven't seen it yet. (This forum has two long intertwined threads about it.) He hypothesizes stars that had collapsed into black holes re-emerging into view upon the evaporation of their event horizon, after an interval very long to those outside it but short to whatever observer could survive the collapse: In one of two black hole scenarios he describes, the collapsed stars would have sizes smaller than the atomic scale but much larger than Planck's, so they would qualify as very small (in volume, not in mass), but I can offer no idea of either the relation of their remaining material to carbon or the relation of their age to the age of whatever universe would surround them. (Rovelli mentions, in passing, a bouncing universe scenario that, like the black hole ones, would rely on quantum pressure.)
 

1. How did smaller stars form in the early Universe?

Smaller stars in the early Universe are believed to have formed through the gravitational collapse of gas clouds. These gas clouds were made up of mostly hydrogen and helium, which were the two main elements present after the Big Bang. As these gas clouds collapsed, they became denser and hotter, eventually igniting nuclear fusion and forming smaller stars.

2. Why were smaller stars more common in the early Universe?

The early Universe was predominantly made up of hydrogen and helium, which are lighter elements compared to others. This means that the gas clouds that formed in the early Universe were less likely to collapse and form larger stars due to their lower mass. Additionally, the early Universe had higher levels of radiation and turbulence, making it harder for larger stars to form.

3. How did the formation of smaller stars impact the evolution of the Universe?

The formation of smaller stars played a crucial role in the evolution of the Universe. These stars were responsible for producing and dispersing heavy elements, such as carbon, oxygen, and iron, through their nuclear fusion processes. These elements were essential for the formation of planets and the development of life.

4. Are smaller stars still forming in the present Universe?

Yes, smaller stars are still forming in the present Universe. While there may be fewer gas clouds available for star formation compared to the early Universe, there are still many regions in our galaxy and other galaxies where smaller stars are actively forming. These stars are also important in the ongoing cycle of element formation and dispersal in the Universe.

5. How do we study or observe the emergence of smaller stars in the early Universe?

Scientists use a variety of methods to study and observe the emergence of smaller stars in the early Universe. These include using telescopes to study the light emitted from these stars, as well as analyzing the chemical compositions of stars and gas clouds in the early Universe. Additionally, computer simulations and models are also used to understand the formation and evolution of smaller stars in the early Universe.

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