Extremely high current effects in semiconductors

In summary: Some LEDs (used to set the bias voltages in RF preamps) become superconductors in liquid helium, just when you need them most.
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Can high current alone damage a device (assuming the device is cooled adequately)?
So, let's assume in a theoretical case we have a (semiconductor but not necessarily) device, e.g. a MOSFET, that is perfectly cooled and has zero heat resistance (infinite thermal conductivity), and that it's connected to a perfect heat sink (theoretical abstractions for now, I will come back to the real world later). Let's say that the MOSFET is switching so it has transient behaviour, it operates in normal region (not sub- or near- threshold) and its gate is charged and discharged at a high frequency by a perfect driver (let's say an ideal inverter). You also have an ideal power supply that can deliver as much current as the circuit asks (with perfect line and load regulation), and the voltage never exceeds the dielectric breakdown threshold.

Now, my question is, can the device be damaged from very high current flowing through the gate driver? Again, not because of overheating, but because of physical limitations in the device? I know that high voltage causes dielectric breakdown, due to a high electric field exceeding the dielectric withstand strength of the material, but is there such a thing for very high currents besides heat? Because the only physical effects I know related to high current besides heating is electromigration which is a relatively slow process and affects mostly long term reliability.

The question is motivated by two thoughts: 1) when you have a real IC and you cool it down with liquid nitrogen, cooling is not really an issue, so the only limiting factor to achieving maximum frequency should only be breakdown voltage right? (I know that there are other limiting factors to speed relating to setup and hold requirements, etc. but I mean from a physics perspective. There is also the case where heat is just not removed fast enough due to the thermal resistance of the junction to package, package to heat sink, etc. and it still ends up blowing your device). 2) in a superconducting system where you don't have any heat being generated, what's limiting you from having billions of amps going through the system (assuming that there is a load that can draw so much current, i.e. it has something to do with all this current, and a source that can provide that)?
 
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ChrisP said:
2) in a superconducting system where you don't have any heat being generated, what's limiting you from having billions of amps going through the system (assuming that there is a load that can draw so much current, i.e. it has something to do with all this current, and a source that can provide that)?
Semiconductors cease to function as semiconductors at superconducting temperatures, because they become short circuits. You will need to select your semiconductor material for low temperature. Consider using GaAs transistors with Si conductors and SiO2 insulators.

Semiconductor PN junctions have a voltage determined by bandgap voltage. 1000 amps through a 1 volt junction will generate 1 kW, even with zero series resistance.

High currents produce high magnetic fields. Hall effects will come into play. Specs will change.

High currents when switched rapidly, with some conductor inductance, will produce voltage spikes that will punch through junction insulation.
 
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ChrisP said:
Again, not because of overheating, but because of physical limitations in the device?
Overheating (in various forms) is one of the the most basic physical limitation of devices.
You can have insanely (!) high pulse currents, as long as the mass involved is enough to keep the junction temperature in the working range.
 
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You may or may not consider this a physical limitation, but it is an inherent limitation that manifests itself thru localized melting of the semiconductor chip itself.

SCR's (Silicon Controlled Rectifiers) have a maximum di/dt rating, beyond which they fail shorted. The turn-on of these devices starts in a few very localized areas of the junction and then spreads across the full junction area. If the current rises faster than the conductive area can spread, there is intense localized heating at these filamentatious areas... enough to melt the semiconductor chip.

Personally, I would consider that an inherent limitation because the chip itself can spread neither the current nor the heat fast enough to function.

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Tom
 
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Wait. Don't semiconductors, by definition, become insulators at low temperatures? So what current? Tunnel current?

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Wait. Don't semiconductors, by definition, become insulators at low temperatures?
Some LEDs (used to set the bias voltages in RF preamps) become superconductors in liquid helium, just when you need them most.
 
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ZapperZ said:
Wait. Don't semiconductors, by definition, become insulators at low temperatures?
Semiconductor, as material indeed works that way (yeah: mostly :doh: ). Semiconductor, mentioned as component in electronics supposed to be in some kind of working conditions (unless specified otherwise).
 
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Some LEDs (used to set the bias voltages in RF preamps) become superconductors in liquid helium, just when you need them most.

They do? Or do you mean they have almost zero resistance at those temperatures? Having almost zero resistance does not automatically imply that it is a superconductor.

Still, LEDs are semiconductors pn junctions, aren't they? They aren't just simple semiconductors, and under normal forward bias operation, I'd like to know the mechanism that allows for the presence of electrons and holes in the n-type and p-type semiconductors at 0 K that make up such a junction.

If there are none, then these are possibly tunnel currents, which is a different beast.

Zz.
 
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Still, LEDs are semiconductors pn junctions, aren't they? They aren't just simple semiconductors, and under normal forward bias operation,
LEDs operate forward biassed, with a PN voltage drop of a few volts.
 
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Baluncore said:
LEDs operate forward biassed, with a PN voltage drop of a few volts.

Yes, I know. But where are the majority charge carriers when the temperature drops to really, really low values?

Zz.
 
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In a mosfet, if power dissipation was taken out the equation, and the load could take the power, then probably it would hit saturation velocity (it’s no longer ohmic) and eventually the electric field would kill the device.

edit: I misread the question. With a safe Vds it could theoretically be ok in this hypothetical situation and it would just sit in saturation. The higher current density and large charge velocity does increase the probability of hot carrier injection damage accumulating and eventually the mosfet would not longer be a mosfet. It would probably just be always on regardless of driver state.

In reality things are different. Google “FET safe operating area”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturation_velocityhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-carrier_injection
 
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I'd asked a similar question, is there any limitation on current carrying capability of a MOSFET other than thermal. I wasn't going to super cool or anything, just getting paranoid about the A/mm2 I was planning to push. The only answers I got really was more about cyclic reliability than anything else.

Only thing I ever heard about limits of fet, other than breakdown voltage and temperature, is the parasitic NPN getting turned on with too large a dv/dt, although haven't seen a dv/dt limit talked about for a while now.

Since in the real world you cannot ignore thermal effects, even if the current doesn't bring Tj above its limit, resulting thermal strain from high current density in the ribbons (or wires) will cause them to let go prematurely (in a cyclic scenario), this source connection Achilles heel leads to things like copper clip and P2 pack type developments which massively increase the delta Tj you can do and the amount of current you can do before the device fails (again, cyclic conditions eg LV324) .

Speaking of thermal strain, I can't imagine pouring liquid nitrogen on a circuit does it any thermal shock favors!
 

1. What are extremely high current effects in semiconductors?

Extremely high current effects in semiconductors refer to the phenomena that occur when a semiconductor device is subjected to a very high level of electrical current. This can cause various changes in the device's behavior, such as increased power dissipation, changes in the device's electrical properties, and even device failure.

2. What causes extremely high current effects in semiconductors?

There are several factors that can lead to extremely high current effects in semiconductors. These include excessive voltage, improper device design or fabrication, and external influences such as temperature fluctuations or electromagnetic interference.

3. How do extremely high current effects affect semiconductor devices?

Extremely high current effects can have a range of consequences on semiconductor devices. These can include changes in the device's electrical characteristics, such as an increase in resistance or a decrease in capacitance, as well as physical changes such as melting or breakdown of the device's components.

4. Can extremely high current effects be prevented?

While it is not always possible to completely prevent extremely high current effects, there are measures that can be taken to minimize their impact. These include proper device design and fabrication, implementing protective measures such as fuses or circuit breakers, and ensuring that the device is operated within its specified limits.

5. How can extremely high current effects be mitigated?

In addition to prevention measures, there are also ways to mitigate the effects of high current on semiconductor devices. These include using materials with higher current-carrying capacities, implementing heat sinks or cooling systems to dissipate excess heat, and using overcurrent protection devices such as diodes or transistors.

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