Field in a superconducting torus

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of creating a magnetic field inside a perfectly superconducting torus without any initial field, and what the highest field that can be maintained practically inside a superconducting coil is. It is determined that a superconducting ring must always maintain a constant flux and that a torus with no initial field would continue to have zero flux when in operation. It is also discussed how a field that doubles back could potentially be created, but the means to do so after the torus has been activated is unknown. The conversation also delves into the effects of a poloidal coil and a Type II superconductor on the magnetic field.
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A question:-

Is it possible to create a magnetic field inside a perfectly superconducting torus if you did not have any to start with? I am talking about a field that goes all the way around the torus, not one that goes partway and doubles back. I am having trouble visualizing how the field lines pass through the central superconducting post in the evolution of the magnetic field.

Also, what is the highest field one can maintain practically inside a superconducting coil?
 
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I would say no due to your stipulation that the torus did not have any initial field. A superconducting ring must always keep it's flux constant by virtue of Faraday's Law. That is, the line integral of the electric field around the ring, which must be zero for a superconductor due to it's infinite conductivity when in operation, is equal to the time differential of the trapped flux in the ring. Since the line integral of the electric field is zero, the trapped flux must remain constant while the superconductor is operating.

We can imagine a torus to be a continuum of superconducting rings. Since you state that there is no initial field when we turn on the superconductors then there must continue to be zero flux through the torus when in operation.

Now one that doubles back, I could see that arising because then you could have a field where the net flux is still zero (since the field goes in and out of each ring). How one would excite such a field AFTER the torus has been activated I know not, but I can see that it could be physically possible to support such a field.
 
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Drakith: Yes, I am talking about the toroidal field in that diagram.

Born2bwire: What happens if the toroidal sheet is a superconducting coil instead? As you attempt to increase the field does the flux work its way around the spiral gap, and does that effect place limits on how fast you can increase the magnetic field? Would a poloidal coil very close to the toroidal coil therefore be able to detect the change in the toroidal field?

I suppose in a Type II superconductor the presence of a voltage on the coil would allow the flux to directly cross the superconducting wires and enter the toroidal space, and a poloidal coil would not detect any change in the toroidal field. Is that true?
 
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It is possible to create a magnetic field inside a perfectly superconducting torus even if there was no initial field present. This is due to the phenomenon of magnetic flux trapping, where the superconducting material can "trap" magnetic flux lines and maintain a persistent current without any external source. This allows for a continuous and uniform magnetic field to be created within the torus, as long as the superconducting material remains in its superconducting state.

Regarding your question about the field lines passing through the central superconducting post, it is important to note that the superconducting material is able to conduct electricity without any resistance, so the field lines can easily pass through the post without any hindrance.

In terms of the highest field that can be maintained inside a superconducting coil, it depends on various factors such as the type of superconducting material used, the cooling system, and the design of the coil. However, in general, superconducting coils have been able to achieve magnetic fields of up to 45 tesla, which is significantly higher than what can be achieved with traditional coils. However, there are ongoing research and developments in the field of superconductivity that may lead to even higher magnetic fields in the future.
 

1. What is a superconducting torus?

A superconducting torus is a type of electromagnet that consists of a circular loop of superconducting wire. This wire has the ability to conduct electricity with zero resistance at very low temperatures, creating a powerful and efficient magnetic field.

2. How is a field generated in a superconducting torus?

A field is generated in a superconducting torus by passing a current through the superconducting wire loop. As the current flows through the wire, it creates a magnetic field that is confined within the toroidal shape of the loop.

3. What are the benefits of using a superconducting torus?

One of the main benefits of using a superconducting torus is its high magnetic field strength. This makes it useful for a variety of applications, such as in particle accelerators and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) machines. Additionally, the zero resistance of the superconducting wire allows for efficient and long-lasting operation.

4. How is a superconducting torus cooled?

In order to maintain its superconducting properties, the torus must be cooled to very low temperatures, typically below -270 degrees Celsius. This is achieved by using a cryocooler, which circulates a coolant such as liquid helium through the superconducting wire.

5. What are the challenges associated with superconducting tori?

One of the main challenges with superconducting tori is the high cost of the materials needed to create them, such as the superconducting wire and the cryocooler. Additionally, the extreme cooling requirements and the delicate nature of the superconducting wire can make maintenance and repairs difficult. However, continued research and advancements in superconducting technology may help to overcome these challenges in the future.

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