Financial/Commodity Trading: which MSc? : Have a Physics BSc

In summary, the conversation discusses a BBC2 documentary called "Traders: Millions by the Minute" which follows a group of people in London being tested for their ability to trade with real money. The conversation then turns to a discussion about which MSc degree would be beneficial for a career in trading, with options including Materials Science, Advanced Composites & Polymers, Computational Finance & Trading, and Plasma Physics. Concerns are raised about the usefulness of each option and the reliability of the documentary. The conversation concludes with advice to focus on skills and programming experience rather than a specific degree for a career in finance.
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A programme was broadcast last week at 9pm on BBC2 entitled Traders: Millions by the Minute

radiotimes.com/episode/c4y6xg/traders-millions-by-the-minute--series-1---episode-1

Of particular interest was the group of people based in London, who were being tested to determine if they had the ability to trade live with real money which belonged to the company in question.

I would have some interest in this field. I shall be graduating with a BSc Physics degree, and was wondering which MSc would potentially help in this role?

Possible options are:
1) MSc Materials Science (lower Russell Group uni)
2) MSc Advanced Composities & Polymers (ex-poly uni)
3) MSc Computational Finance & Trading (lower Russell Group uni)
4) MSc Plasma Physics (lower Russell Group uni)


Concern with option 1): would a MSc Materials Science be of interest to trading employers?

Concerns with option 2): this is not a Russell Group uni, also would this degree be of interest to trading employers?

Concerns with option 3): potentially this course will be of little use outside trading if I later discover I'm not suited to trading (as was the case last night with one guy who had an MSc Business). Also, possibly no point taking this course if going to be working in the field, since probably need to work in the field to genuinely understand it.

Concern with option 4): there are considerably more jobs available in the field of Materials Science than Plasma Physics, therefore MSc Materials Science more useful if looking for a non-trading job.
 
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The BBC2 doco was rubbish - do not make decisions based on it.
Have a look at: http://www.investopedia.com/articles/financialcareers/08/quants-quantitative-analyst.asp
To be employed as a quantitative analyst (say) you need a background in finance and a strongly quantitative science that uses computer models a lot. Some of the edgier companies may be taking risks on people from the endges of physics - but you'd basically have to know them to talk to first to get a look-see. There is no road-map for this stuff.
 
  • #3
Thank you Simon.
 
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That BBC documentary is such junk. If you think you can beat people devoting loads of resources and are in the know (ie have access to information you dont) at home you are a chump and should just buy a lotto ticket.Also these guys are in their "up" times and can say they are doing everything right but in a stochastic process some people are going to win no matter what they do but are just as likely to lose later.
 
  • #5
I haven't watched the documentary but my advice is to work on whatever you enjoy the most! If you're truly good at a skill, there's a multitude of ways to get wealthy doing it, you probably don't want to be in finance if you're optimizing your career path for wealth anyway.

If it helps, programming experience and the quality of your research publications will generally weigh in your favor more so than your specific specialization. Your mileage may vary depending on the actual firm that you're applying to.
 
  • #6
Thanks guys, I suppose one big issue I'd have with doing option 3) is that if I didn't go into trading that it would be a completely useless MSc in any other field.
 

1. What is the difference between an MSc in Financial Trading and an MSc in Commodity Trading?

An MSc in Financial Trading focuses on the trading of stocks, bonds, currencies, and other financial assets. On the other hand, an MSc in Commodity Trading focuses on the trading of physical goods such as agricultural products, metals, and energy. Both degrees involve market analysis, risk management, and trading strategies, but the underlying assets being traded are different.

2. How does a Physics BSc background prepare me for a career in financial or commodity trading?

A background in Physics can be beneficial for a career in financial or commodity trading as it provides a strong foundation in mathematical and analytical skills. These skills are essential for understanding market trends, developing trading strategies, and analyzing risk. Additionally, Physics involves the study of complex systems, which can be applied to the understanding of financial and commodity markets.

3. Are there any specific courses or electives I should take during my MSc to prepare for a career in financial or commodity trading?

Yes, there are several courses that can be beneficial for a career in financial or commodity trading. Courses in financial mathematics, statistics, econometrics, and programming can help develop the necessary skills for analyzing market data and developing trading strategies. Additionally, courses in financial and commodity markets, risk management, and derivatives can provide a deeper understanding of the industry.

4. Is it necessary to have prior trading experience before pursuing an MSc in Financial/Commodity Trading?

No, prior trading experience is not necessary to pursue an MSc in Financial/Commodity Trading. However, having some experience in the industry can be beneficial in understanding the practical aspects of trading and gaining hands-on experience. Many MSc programs also offer internships or practical projects that can provide valuable experience.

5. Can I pursue an MSc in Financial/Commodity Trading if I do not have a background in business or finance?

Yes, it is possible to pursue an MSc in Financial/Commodity Trading without a background in business or finance. Many programs are designed for students from diverse backgrounds and provide foundational courses in finance and economics. However, having some basic knowledge in these areas can be helpful in understanding the concepts and theories taught in the program.

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