Find the limit of the function

In summary: Right!An even easier (but looser) lower bound than the trapezoidal one is obtainable from the fact that for ##t \in (0,x)## we have ##e^{-t^2}> e^{-x^2}##, so that ##\int_0^x e
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Find the limit of the function ( attached)

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Is the limit infinity. Found the integral as (-1/(2t))*e^-2t from 0 to 0.
Isn't the integral of a function that is 0 to 0, 0. The lim of 1/x approaching zero infinity.
 

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Sam Donovan said:

Homework Statement


Find the limit of the function ( attached)

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Is the limit infinity. Found the integral as (-1/(2t))*e^-2t from 0 to 0.
Isn't the integral of a function that is 0 to 0, 0. The lim of 1/x approaching zero infinity.

Apparently you are just plugging in ##x=0##, and getting ##0## for the integral and ##0## for the denominator. In other words, a ##\frac 0 0## form. You can't draw any conclusion from that. But you likely have studied techniques to handle ##\frac 0 0## forms, right?
 
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Look, if you put ##x=0##, you have ##\frac{0}{0}## form [##\int_0^x e^{-t^2}dt## is zero when ##x=0##]. So in that case, you cannot conclude that the limit is infinity.
Now, look at the figure:
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If ##x\rightarrow 0##, what will be ##\frac{\int_0^x e^{-t^2}dt}{x}=\frac{Area}{x}## ? [Use trapezoidal approximation of area under the curve, that is, if ##x## is small enough, the area under the curve can be approximated by the area of the trapezoid ##ABCD##]
 
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arpon said:
If ##x\rightarrow 0##, what will be ##\frac{\int_0^x e^{-2t}dt}{x}=\frac{Area}{x}## ?

The integrand is ##e^{-t^2}##, not ##e^{-2t}## so the area can't be calculated directly.
 
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LCKurtz said:
The integrand is ##e^{-t^2}##, not ##e^{-2t}## so the area can't be calculated directly.
Thanks for pointing out the mistake. I did not mean to analytically calculate the area, I meant to use the trapezoidal approximation for the area.
 
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Sam Donovan said:

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Find the limit of the function ( attached)
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arpon said:
Thanks for pointing out the mistake. I did not mean to analytically calculate the area, I meant to use the trapezoidal approximation for the area.

If you look at the graph of the function ##e^{-t^2}## you will see that the trapezoidal area ##T(x)## underestimates the exact area ##A(x)##, so
$$\frac{T(x)}{x} < \frac{A(x)}{x}.$$
Thus, you can conclude that ##\lim_{t \to 0} (1/x) \int_0^x f(t) \, dt \geq \lim_{x \to 0} T(x)/x##, and so get a lower bound on your desired limit. How can you get an upper bound as well, in order to extract an exact value?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
If you look at the graph of the function ##e^{-t^2}## you will see that the trapezoidal area ##T(x)## underestimates the exact area ##A(x)##, so
$$\frac{T(x)}{x} < \frac{A(x)}{x}.$$
Thus, you can conclude that ##\lim_{t \to 0} (1/x) \int_0^x f(t) \, dt \geq \lim_{x \to 0} T(x)/x##, and so get a lower bound on your desired limit. How can you get an upper bound as well, in order to extract an exact value?
$$e^{-t^2}\leq1$$
$$\int^x_0e^{-t^2}\,dt\leq\int^x_0\,dt$$
$$\frac{\int^x_0e^{-t^2}\,dt}{x}\leq\frac{\int^x_0\,dt}{x}$$
 
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arpon said:
$$e^{-t^2}\leq1$$
$$\int^x_0e^{-t^2}\,dt\leq\int^x_0\,dt$$
$$\frac{\int^x_0e^{-t^2}\,dt}{x}\leq\frac{\int^x_0\,dt}{x}$$

Right!

An even easier (but looser) lower bound than the trapezoidal one is obtainable from the fact that for ##t \in (0,x)## we have ##e^{-t^2}> e^{-x^2}##, so that ##\int_0^x e^{-t^2} \, dt > \int_0^t e^{-x^2} \, dt = x e^{-x^2}##. Besides, for some other, similar, functions, the trapezoidal estimate produces an upper bound, rather than a lower bound, so you are left unable to make a safe conclusion about the limit; for example because you do not have both a lower and upper bound. For example, consider ##\int_0^x e^{-\sqrt{t}} \, dt## for small ##x > 0##.
 
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1. What is the definition of a limit in calculus?

The limit of a function f(x) as x approaches a is defined as the value that f(x) gets closer and closer to as x gets closer and closer to a. Mathematically, it is denoted as lim x→a f(x) = L, where L is the limit of the function.

2. How do I find the limit of a function algebraically?

To find the limit of a function algebraically, you can use the following steps:1. Simplify the function as much as possible.2. Plug in the value of x that the function is approaching.3. If the result is undefined or indeterminate, try factoring or simplifying further.4. If the result is still undefined, you can use L'Hopital's rule or other limits theorems to evaluate the limit.

3. Can I use a graph to find the limit of a function?

Yes, you can use a graph to estimate the limit of a function. To do this, you can plot the function on a graphing calculator or software and zoom in on the value of x that the function is approaching. The y-value of that point will be the limit of the function.

4. What are the common types of limits in calculus?

The most common types of limits in calculus are:1. One-sided limits: where the function approaches a specific value from either the left or the right side.2. Infinite limits: where the function approaches positive or negative infinity.3. Limits at infinity: where the function approaches a specific value as x approaches either positive or negative infinity.

5. When is a limit undefined?

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