Flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation

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If considering the 4-D manifold(##x^1,x^2,x^3,t##) in which the sub-manifold dimensionality is 3(##x^1,x^2,x^3##)(hypersurface)
We are writting the metric of this space as ##ds^2=g(t)dt^2+f(t)\gamma_{ij}{dx^idx^j}\delta_{ij}## where the term ##\gamma_{ij}dx^idx^j\delta_{ij}## is the metric of the hypersurface assuming that ##\frac{∂}{∂t}=\hat t## is orthogonal to the hypersurface .
A very elementary rough diagram is this
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Now from the four velocity ##V^\mu=\gamma##{c,##v_{spatial}##}
If a particle is at rest in one frame then it's ##V^\mu## points along ##\hat t## (perpendicular to the hypersurface) and if it is having some spatial velocity in another frame then the velocity four vector ##V^\mu## is now tilted at an angle to the hypersurface(e.g roughly we can say there are two components ,along ##\hat t## and ##V_{hypersurface})##
Till now it's ok but these lines from a paper I am unable to understand and connects ,to the above
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From ''Accordingly .....to ##b_{\mu \nu}##'' here ##n## is along ##\hat t## and ##u## is the four velocity.
Can anyone help me in sort out this
 

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Moderator's note: Thread level changed to "A" based on the reference given.
 
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Apashanka said:
If considering the 4-D manifold(##x^1,x^2,x^3,t##) in which the sub-manifold dimensionality is 3(##x^1,x^2,x^3##)(hypersurface)
We are writting the metric of this space as ##ds^2=g(t)dt^2+f(t)\gamma_{ij}{dx^idx^j}\delta_{ij}## where the term ##\gamma_{ij}dx^idx^j\delta_{ij}## is the metric of the hypersurface assuming that ##\frac{∂}{∂t}=\hat t## is orthogonal to the hypersurface .
A very elementary rough diagram is this View attachment 239632
Now from the four velocity ##V^\mu=\gamma##{c,##v_{spatial}##}
If a particle is at rest in one frame then it's ##V^\mu## points along ##\hat t## (perpendicular to the hypersurface) and if it is having some spatial velocity in another frame then the velocity four vector ##V^\mu## is now tilted at an angle to the hypersurface(e.g roughly we can say there are two components ,along ##\hat t## and ##V_{hypersurface})##
Till now it's ok but these lines from a paper I am unable to understand and connects ,to the aboveView attachment 239633
From ''Accordingly .....to ##b_{\mu \nu}##'' here ##n## is along ##\hat t## and ##u## is the four velocity.
Can anyone help me in sort out this
Can anyone please help me...
 
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What exactly is the question? In that sentence there are no computations or any arguments/reasoning to explain. They only introduce the standard notations and names for the projections.
 
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martinbn said:
What exactly is the question? In that sentence there are no computations or any arguments/reasoning to explain. They only introduce the standard notations and names for the projections.
I didnt understand the projections they're taking about??
 
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Apashanka said:
I didnt understand the projections they're taking about??

If you don't understand the general concept of projections, then the paper you referenced is probably too advanced for you. And trying to explain that concept from scratch is probably too much for a PF thread.

What textbooks on differential geometry have you studied? Projections are a basic concept of differential geometry. You really need to have a good understanding of differential geometry before trying to work through a paper like the one you linked to.
 
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Apashanka said:
I didnt understand the projections they're taking about??

The basic idea is that, if you have a timelike vector at a given event, then the metric of a local spacelike hypersurface orthogonal to that timelike vector at that event is given by the formulas in what you quoted. The formulas are given for two different choices of timelike vector: ##n##, the vector that points along the timelike lines of the chosen foliation, and ##u##, the vector that points along the fluid flow lines.

Going into much more detail than that is probably, as I said before, beyond the scope of a PF thread.
 
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Sir one question, space like vectors can't be along ##\hat t## ,isn't it??they are outside the light cones
 
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Apashanka said:
space like vectors can't be along ##^\hat{t}## ,isn't it??

Not if ##\hat{t}## is timelike, no.
 
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Thread closed as the subject matter is "A" level and the OP does not appear to have the required background.

@Apashanka, based on your repeated threads on subjects related to this one, it really appears that you need to spend some time developing your understanding of differential geometry and how it is used in General Relativity. Here at PF we can help with specific questions, but we are not equipped to give a complete graduate level course in differential geometry and GR, and it's difficult to answer questions that require that background knowledge if the person asking them does not have it.
 

1. What is the concept of flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation?

Flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation is a mathematical concept that describes the movement of a fluid in a way that is perpendicular to the surfaces of the foliation. This means that the flow is constrained to move in a specific direction, rather than being able to move in any direction within the fluid.

2. How is flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation different from other types of fluid flow?

Flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation is unique because it takes into account the geometry of the fluid and its boundaries, rather than just the overall movement of the fluid. This allows for a more precise understanding of how the fluid is moving and interacting with its surroundings.

3. What are some practical applications of flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation?

Flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation has many practical applications in fields such as fluid mechanics, meteorology, and oceanography. It can be used to model and predict the movement of fluids in various systems, such as air currents in the atmosphere or ocean currents.

4. How is flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation studied and analyzed?

Flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation is studied using mathematical and computational methods. This involves creating models and simulations of the fluid flow and analyzing the data to understand its behavior and patterns.

5. What are some current research developments in the study of flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation?

Currently, there is ongoing research in the use of flow as a fluid-orthogonal foliation to better understand and predict the behavior of complex fluid systems, such as turbulent flows. There is also a focus on developing more efficient and accurate computational methods for analyzing fluid-orthogonal foliations.

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