GM tube and dual probe scintillator

In summary, the conversation discussed the results of measuring sources with two detectors and comparing their efficiency. It was questioned whether a radioactive source that decays by beta and gamma would register as two counts due to the production of two particles. However, this is not typically the case due to the dead time of the detectors and the possibility of radiation not being emitted in the direction of the detector. The conversation also mentioned the difficulty in detecting low-energy betas, which could explain the relatively low efficiency for the C-14 source. Finally, it was noted that C-14 is not a commonly used source due to its low energy, low activity, and other factors.
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Recently I measured a range of sources with two detectors comparing their efficiency. One of the sources used (C-14) was a pure beta emitter and it made me wonder. If a radioactive source decays by beta then gamma, will one decay register as two counts as two radioactive particles are produced. The results showed a relatively low efficiency for the C-14 on both detectors but could this just be down to the low energy beta being harder to detect.
 
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If a radioactive source decays by beta then gamma, will one decay register as two counts as two radioactive particles are produced
In general no. There are at least two reasons for this, one particular to GM counters is that when an event is registered the detector is "dead" for a certain amount of time. It is unable to register another event until the present ionization is cleared from the chamber. The length of time to clear the ionization can be as much as 200 microseconds. If particles come in faster than one every 2x10-4 second the subsequent arriving particles will not be registered. Multiple radiations emitted from a decay are usually very fast.

The other reason and this is more applicable to scintillation detectors or solid-state detectors since the dead times are very short is that the radiation may not be emitted in the solid angle that the detector subtends although it is more likely you will register multiple radiations per decay.

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The results showed a relatively low efficiency for the C-14 on both detectors but could this just be down to the low energy beta being harder to detect.
Yes. Typically the window of the detector for betas of energy less than 250 Kev should have an areal density of about 5 mg/cm2 or less. Very low-energy Betas are most easily detected with liquid scintillation detectors or gas flow counters which are windowless.
 
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One of the sources used (C-14) was a pure beta emitter
I'm really surprised. C-14 is not a commonly used source, as it is more trouble than it's worth. The beta is low energy, the activity is low (and thus the cost is high), you need to protect against biological uptake, etc. I don't even see it in the usual catalogs for academic sources.

Nothing is a pure beta emitter. The particles exit the source, ionize the material surrounding it (or the detector, like the tube) and as the electrons repopulate those atoms you get x-rays. But as @gleem points out, multiple pluses that happen in the same time window register as a single pulse.
 
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1. What is a GM tube and dual probe scintillator?

A GM tube and dual probe scintillator is a type of radiation detector that is used to measure ionizing radiation. It consists of a Geiger-Muller (GM) tube, which is a gas-filled tube that detects high-energy particles, and a scintillator, which is a material that produces light when struck by radiation. The dual probe design allows for more accurate and sensitive measurements.

2. How does a GM tube and dual probe scintillator work?

The GM tube and dual probe scintillator works by detecting the ionizing radiation that passes through it. When radiation enters the GM tube, it ionizes the gas inside, causing a small electrical pulse. This pulse is then amplified and measured by the detector. The scintillator works by converting the energy from the radiation into light, which is then detected by a photomultiplier tube.

3. What types of radiation can a GM tube and dual probe scintillator detect?

A GM tube and dual probe scintillator can detect various types of ionizing radiation, including alpha particles, beta particles, and gamma rays. It can also detect X-rays and cosmic rays.

4. What are the applications of a GM tube and dual probe scintillator?

A GM tube and dual probe scintillator has a wide range of applications, including radiation monitoring in nuclear power plants, medical imaging, environmental monitoring, and radiation research. It is also used in industrial settings to detect radiation in materials and products.

5. How accurate is a GM tube and dual probe scintillator?

The accuracy of a GM tube and dual probe scintillator depends on various factors, such as the type of radiation being detected, the quality of the detector, and the calibration of the instrument. Generally, these detectors have a high level of accuracy and sensitivity, making them suitable for a wide range of applications.

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