Help with 2D mass-spring-damper system

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In summary, the image on the right shows a problem with the force between box2 and the ground decreasing. The blue ink represents an equation given by someone else and the speaker is unsure why the force is decreasing. The force f is applied to box2 to push it down, but the spring k2 is supposed to push upward. It is noted that the lower spring will never be stretched, but this conceptual difficulty can be resolved by writing the equation as +k2(z-x2) and noting that it will always be positive.
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Homework Statement
box1 mass : m1
box2 mass : m2
box1 displacement : x1
box2 displacement : x2
ground displacement : z

k1(spring), b(damper) attached between box1, box2
k2(spring) attached between box2 and ground
force is applied to box1 and 2 as shown in image
Relevant Equations
mx'' = f - kx -bx' (F = ma)
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the image on the right shows the problem.

the blue ink is the equation someone else gave me,
and I don't understand why the force between box2 and ground goes down...
(the red is me)

the force f is applied to box2 so that it pushes box2 down,
so isn't the spring k2 supposed to push upward?
 
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If the quantity ##(x_2-z)## is positive, what can you say about the lower spring? Is it stretched or compressed?
 
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TSny said:
If the quantity ##(x_2-z)## is positive, what can you say about the lower spring? Is it stretched or compressed?
In practice, of course, it never will be stretched, but the conceptual difficulty goes away if we write it as ##+k_2(z-x_2)## and note that this will always be positive.
 
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1. What is a 2D mass-spring-damper system?

A 2D mass-spring-damper system is a mathematical model used to describe the behavior of a physical system consisting of a mass, a spring, and a damper. It is commonly used in engineering and physics to study the motion of objects subjected to external forces.

2. How does a mass-spring-damper system work?

In a mass-spring-damper system, the mass is attached to a spring, which is in turn attached to a fixed point. The damper is connected between the mass and the fixed point and is used to dissipate energy from the system. When the mass is displaced from its equilibrium position, the spring exerts a restorative force, while the damper resists the motion of the mass, resulting in a damped oscillation.

3. What are the equations governing a 2D mass-spring-damper system?

The equations governing a 2D mass-spring-damper system are the Newton's second law of motion, which states that the sum of forces acting on the mass is equal to its mass times its acceleration, and Hooke's law, which states that the force exerted by the spring is proportional to the displacement of the mass from its equilibrium position. The equation for the motion of the mass can be written as a second-order differential equation.

4. What are the applications of a 2D mass-spring-damper system?

A 2D mass-spring-damper system has numerous applications in engineering and physics, such as in the design and analysis of mechanical systems, control systems, and vibration isolation systems. It is also used in modeling biological systems, such as the motion of the human body, and in computer graphics for simulating cloth and hair movement.

5. How can I solve a 2D mass-spring-damper system?

The equations governing a 2D mass-spring-damper system can be solved using various numerical methods, such as the Euler method, the Runge-Kutta method, or the finite difference method. These methods involve breaking down the system into smaller time steps and using iterative calculations to approximate the solution. Alternatively, the system can be solved analytically using the Laplace transform or the method of undetermined coefficients.

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