Hollowed out sphere exerting gravitational force

In summary, when solving for the force of a hollowed out mass, it is incorrect to substitute the remaining mass back into the formula. This is because the remaining mass does not have its center of mass at the same position and is no longer spherically symmetric, resulting in a different gravitational effect. The "hole" created by removing the smaller sphere affects the force calculation due to the concept of superposition.
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Homework Statement
A spherical hollow is made in a lead sphere of radius R, such that its surface touches the outside surface of the lead sphere and passes through its centre. The mass of the sphere before hollowing was M. With what force, according to the law of universal gravitation, will the hollowed lead sphere attract a small sphere of mass m, which lies at a distance d from the centre of the lead sphere on the straight line connecting the centres of the spheres and of the hollow?
(diagram below)
Relevant Equations
F = G*m1m2/r
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I solved that the hollowed out mass is M/8, which is correct. I don't understand why it is incorrect to substitute the remaining mass (7M/8) back into the F = G*m1m2/r to produce the force. Why is the solution the force of the whole lead sphere minus the force of the “hole” lead sphere, which is
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? What effect does this "hole" have?

Thank you.
 
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This idea is superposition. The force at mass ##m## due to a full sphere is greater than that due to the hollowed sphere because there is more mass. To get the force due to the hollowed sphere, you need to subtract the force due to the smaller sphere that you took out in order to create the cavity.
 
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kuruman said:
This idea is superposition. The force at mass ##m## due to a full sphere is greater than that due to the hollowed sphere because there is more mass. To get the force due to the hollowed sphere, you need to subtract the force due to the smaller sphere that you took out in order to create the cavity.
Is the force needed to create the cavity a gravitational force?
 
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No, pure elbow grease ... :smile:

jolly_math said:
I don't understand why it is incorrect to substitute the remaining mass (7M/8) back into the F =
Because the remaining mass doesn't have its center of mass at the same position !

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BvU said:
Because the remaining mass doesn't have its center of mass at the same position !
Also, somewhat more subtly, because the remaining mass is no longer spherically symmetric. So Newton's shell theorem no longer applies, so the gravitational effect of the remaining mass is no longer guaranteed to be identical to that of an equal point mass positioned at a particular mass center.

Pithy version: Center of mass and center of gravity are not always synonymous.
 
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What is a hollowed out sphere exerting gravitational force?

A hollowed out sphere exerting gravitational force refers to a spherical object that has been emptied out in the middle and is exerting a gravitational pull on surrounding objects.

How does a hollowed out sphere exert gravitational force?

A hollowed out sphere exerts gravitational force due to its mass. The larger the mass of the sphere, the stronger the gravitational force it exerts on surrounding objects.

What is the difference between a solid sphere and a hollowed out sphere exerting gravitational force?

A solid sphere exerts gravitational force from its entire mass, while a hollowed out sphere only exerts force from the remaining mass after being hollowed out.

Can a hollowed out sphere exert gravitational force even if it has no mass?

No, a hollowed out sphere must have mass in order to exert gravitational force. Without mass, there is no gravitational pull.

How does the distance from a hollowed out sphere affect its gravitational force?

The farther away an object is from a hollowed out sphere, the weaker the gravitational force it experiences. This is because the force of gravity decreases with distance.

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