How to verify the Energy delivered by Lithium ion battery?

In summary: Therefore, it makes sense to have a rating for the absolute capacity when new, and another for the operative capacity between charges.In summary, the conversation discusses the process of verifying the energy and capacity delivered by a Lithium Ion battery. The battery has a nominal voltage of 4.2V and a nominal capacity of 2250 mAh. The speaker is conducting experiments and calculating the energy and capacity every second using a formula. They have discharged the battery from 4.1V to 2.5V and accumulated a total energy of 7 wh and a capacity of 2500 mAh. The capacity they got was more than the rated capacity, and they are unsure if this is an error or expected. The conversation also touches
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How to verify the Energy and Capacity delivered by the Lithium Ion battery?

I have a Lithium ion batter with below configuration:
Nominal Voltage 4.2 V
Nominal capacity 2250 mAh

I am calculating the energy and capacity every second for my experiments.

I use below formula to calculate the energy and capacity calculation:

consider initial V= 4v and constant current I= 5A
E = P * t --> E-energy,P-Power,t-time in hour
eg: E= 20 * (1/3600) = 0.005

C = (E * 1000)/V --> C-capacity, V-voltage
Eg: C = (0.005 *1000)/4 = 1.25 mAh

I have discharged the battery from 4.1V to 2.5V
I added the energy and capacity from every second.

Total accumulated Energy I got was around 7 wh and capacity is around 2500 mAh

Capacity which i got was more than the rated capacity.

I really don't know where i did the mistake or this was expected.

A small help,will be highly appreciated.

Thank you.
 
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I haven't checked your sums but there are at least four possibilities..

1) 2250mAH is the nominal capacity not the maximum. Manufacturing tolerances mean you might have a good one.

2) Batteries degrade over time. A battery is typically considered to have reached the end of it's life when it's capacity falls to 80% of it's specified capacity. One way to achieve long life by that definition is to start with slightly more than the specified capacity.

3) The specified capacity might not be measured down to 2.5V. It's not really a good idea to go below 3V regularly or you can effect the life of the cell. The specification might assume a different end voltage than you used.

4) Capacity probably varies with temperature and current draw. The specified capacity will assume some worse case that might not match your experiment.
 
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PS: I once had a discussion with a company that matched NiMH cells into racing packs for model cars. They said that according to their tests the capacity of some cheap cells varied by up to 30% batch to batch. I don't know if the same applies to li cells.
 
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I haven't checked your sums but there are at least four possibilities..

1) 2250mAH is the nominal capacity not the maximum. Manufacturing tolerances mean you might have a good one.

2) Batteries degrade over time. A battery is typically considered to have reached the end of it's life when it's capacity falls to 80% of it's specified capacity. One way to achieve long life by that definition is to start with slightly more than the specified capacity.

3) The specified capacity might not be measured down to 2.5V. It's not really a good idea to go below 3V regularly or you can effect the life of the cell. The specification might assume a different end voltage than you used.

4) Capacity probably varies with temperature and current draw. The specified capacity will assume some worse case that might not match your experiment.
yeah you are right it is nominal capacity,but i really don't know why my calculated capacity is really high than expected . On thing i suspect is, i get fluctuation in voltage due to Battery management unit,because of that the Energy get the fluctuation(this fluctuated values might get added up). From this energy, the capacity should also have this fluctuated value. So I have now this basic question, is the formulas i used to calculate the energy and capacity (for every second) are correct? If not could you please tell me what's the mistake?
 
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SIvakumaran said:
I use below formula to calculate the energy and capacity calculation:

consider initial V= 4v and constant current I= 5A
E = P * t --> E-energy,P-Power,t-time in hour
eg: E= 20 * (1/3600) = 0.005

C = (E * 1000)/V --> C-capacity, V-voltage
Eg: C = (0.005 *1000)/4 = 1.25 mAh

That seems a bit of a roundabout way to calculate the capacity in mAH. There is also an error because 5A for 1 second = 1.4mAH. Looks like a rounding error as 20 * (1/3600) = 0.0055555 recurring.

Since you are discharging at a constant current all you really need to do is measure how long it takes to discharge the battery in hours and multiply by 5000. No need to measure the voltage for that calculation. If you look at your sums you are multiplying by V and then dividing by V again.

If you also want the capacity in kWH then since the current is constant all you need do is add up all the voltage samples and multiply the result by 5 to give the answer in Joules. To convert the capacity in Joules to kWH divide by 1000 * 3600.
 
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CWatters said:
If you also want the capacity in kWH then since the current is constant all you need do is add up all the voltage samples and multiply the result by 5 to give the answer in Joules. To convert the capacity in Joules to kWH divide by 1000 * 3600.

PS If the current and voltage are fluctuating then the best approach is to sample both and multiply together to give the energy in joules. Add them all up and then convert to kWH.
 
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I was looking at lithium polymer cell ratings recently, where each had two associated mAhr figures. I assumed one to be a measure of the energy available without compromising the cell's life, and the other to indicate the absolute total energy held by the cell. My understanding is that you need to connect these cells to the charger before they drain to less than around 12% of full charge; total discharge being their ruination because it allows undesirable chemical products to form.
 
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1. How is the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery measured?

The energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery is measured in watt-hours (Wh) or ampere-hours (Ah). This measurement takes into account both the voltage and the capacity of the battery.

2. What is the typical energy capacity of a Lithium ion battery?

The energy capacity of a Lithium ion battery can vary depending on its size and type, but on average, a standard Lithium ion battery has an energy capacity of around 150 watt-hours (Wh).

3. How can I verify the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery?

To verify the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery, you can use a multimeter or a battery tester. These tools can measure the voltage and capacity of the battery, which can then be used to calculate the energy delivered using the formula Wh = V x Ah.

4. Are there any safety precautions I should take when verifying the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery?

Yes, there are a few safety precautions to keep in mind when verifying the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery. First, make sure to wear protective gear, such as gloves and safety glasses, as Lithium ion batteries can be hazardous if handled improperly. Also, avoid short-circuiting the battery and always follow the manufacturer's instructions.

5. Can I verify the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery without specialized equipment?

While specialized equipment, such as a multimeter or battery tester, is recommended for accurate measurements, you can estimate the energy delivered by a Lithium ion battery by monitoring its usage and charging cycles. Keep track of the battery's voltage and capacity over time to get an idea of its energy delivery. However, for precise measurements, it is best to use specialized equipment.

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