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Rwanda and Srebrenica come to mind when I continue to hear people say that the coalition should be replaced with a UN force.
Those two areas had declared safe zones and in both cases 1000's of people around (and INSIDE OF) the safe zone were killed.
So, lets' look at the main complaints/goals about Iraq:
1> Nations don't want their troops there
2> security
3> humanitarian aide
4> hand over of power
Well, if the UN takes over, I don't understand where people think the soldiers will come from. It's not as if they will magically appear. Australia, S Korea, and Spain will all have soldiers there - France and Germany too.
How will security get better? The UN is there for PEACEKEEPING. It's a show of force more than anything. Many on here that support the UN role also agree that we are still in an open war in Iraq. So, how will the UN do a job that isn't what they were designed for?
Also, do you believe that somehow the insurgency will suddenly be calmed because of the UN label (who has been accused of being nothing more than a tail of the USA)? Or will the insurgency continue because those that are fighting do not want just a free Iraq, they want to have control (or a separate country).
Humanitarian aide. There is presently power and water to more homes now than there was before the war. The Redcross and other organizations are active in Iraq, and we are supplying tons of food to the populous. I have been unable to find any news stories anywhere showing that food, water, and medicine could somehow be improved any quicker via the UN (I'm open for links). Perhaps with UN support other countries will help more? Do we have any preset agreemetns of "bring the UN in, and we will offer this..."?
Hand over of power. The interim government will be taking power in June, and the UN agrees with our assesment of the ability for the country to hold elections (they aren't ready). So how will this change under the UN??
So, maybe someone here who supports the UN taking over can show me how the UN taking over will be better for the Iraqis. What the international community wants is a moot point for this thread. This is fully based on how it will help the Iraqis.
Those two areas had declared safe zones and in both cases 1000's of people around (and INSIDE OF) the safe zone were killed.
So, lets' look at the main complaints/goals about Iraq:
1> Nations don't want their troops there
2> security
3> humanitarian aide
4> hand over of power
Well, if the UN takes over, I don't understand where people think the soldiers will come from. It's not as if they will magically appear. Australia, S Korea, and Spain will all have soldiers there - France and Germany too.
How will security get better? The UN is there for PEACEKEEPING. It's a show of force more than anything. Many on here that support the UN role also agree that we are still in an open war in Iraq. So, how will the UN do a job that isn't what they were designed for?
Also, do you believe that somehow the insurgency will suddenly be calmed because of the UN label (who has been accused of being nothing more than a tail of the USA)? Or will the insurgency continue because those that are fighting do not want just a free Iraq, they want to have control (or a separate country).
Humanitarian aide. There is presently power and water to more homes now than there was before the war. The Redcross and other organizations are active in Iraq, and we are supplying tons of food to the populous. I have been unable to find any news stories anywhere showing that food, water, and medicine could somehow be improved any quicker via the UN (I'm open for links). Perhaps with UN support other countries will help more? Do we have any preset agreemetns of "bring the UN in, and we will offer this..."?
Hand over of power. The interim government will be taking power in June, and the UN agrees with our assesment of the ability for the country to hold elections (they aren't ready). So how will this change under the UN??
So, maybe someone here who supports the UN taking over can show me how the UN taking over will be better for the Iraqis. What the international community wants is a moot point for this thread. This is fully based on how it will help the Iraqis.