Insolation curves: solar energy on earth

In summary, the conversation discusses astronomical influences on climate and the calculation of insolation curves with and without atmospheric extinction. The participants also explore the potential impact of Milankovitch cycles on climate, as well as the movement of the sun around the barycentre of the solar system. They also discuss the differences in daily insolation values at different latitudes and the potential role of orbital configurations in driving extreme daily average insolation values in the far northern solstice.
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giann_tee
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I've been involved for a long time going over astronomical influences on climate. My job is to be an astronomer and I don't know about climate. Maybe you think this is impossible, but I think it would be too complex to say whether a record of some sort within the ice was the driving force of all climate there is, or just a record of yet another thing coming from the sky.

In any case the big deal in this area is calculating common Insolation curves presented in the following way:

1. without atmospheric extinction
Insolation=Solar constant * sin(altitude of sun above horizon)
at one geographic spot, at one moment during the day

2. with extinction
k=0.8
Inso=So * sin(a) * k^(1/sin(a))

In the short term (eg. 100 years) the math behind general spherical astronomy is easy. The case 1 is integrable, the case 2 is only for numeric computation. We calculate altitude of sun every day, any time.

In the very very long term the orbit of Earth is changing shape, and axis of Earth is precessing. Hence, there is some more complex general formula for this case which will tell us the altitude of the sun depending from geographical latitude, obliquity, eccentricity, ecliptic longitude of the sun...

Although I demonstrate all this to some point within my powers as a student and a jerk, I live in a system that hates quoting and demands evidence.

Given this compilation of data:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/huybers2006b/
we can look into a couple of graphs:
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~phuybers/Inso/Summer_energy_15N.pdf
http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~phuybers/Inso/Summer_energy_65N.pdf

Notice one odd thing: In the middle of summer these two very distant geographical latitudes, have the same local maximum of Insolation - a whole 500 W/m^2.

Would someone care to comment on this?
you won't be quoted I promise!
 
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Before going into the details, the milankovitch cycles generate more problems than they solve, generating the funniest hypotheses.

Study for instance the publications here on the page of Lorraine Lisiecki.

One could also wonder how the faintest radiative forcings could generate such powerful reactions in the ocean. Or perhaps that powerful reactions in the ocean triggered climate changes on land.

It may be a completely different story, which may include the movement of the sun around the barycentre of the solar system, the generated changes in gravity and length of day and the reaction of the oceans.

How is that for starters?
 
  • #3
Proposal is interesting but for later. Now the game is all set and there's no back. :-)

I've been running the MATLAB code they gave. For example (press F5) if I execute: (average for thousand years - ignore, latitude 15, day number 180, type of day normal calendar)

>> daily_insolation(1,15,180,1)

ans =

442.5194

>> daily_insolation(1,65,180,1)

ans =

478.2614

The difference (W/m^2) is not great!
 
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>> daily_insolation(0.001,15,1:1:365,1)

for table (0.001 is ignored by program)
 
  • #5
giann_tee said:
The difference (W/m^2) is not great!

Perhaps that the insolation is the average daily value. But at 65N the duration of the day in summer time is much longer than at 15N. So although the max w/m2 at noon is somewhat lower, daily insolation starts earlier and last longer. hence the daily average value may be near equal.

The real difference obviously is in winter time when 15N gets not much less than in summer time while 65N is in a deep dip by then, low sun, short day.

Does that help?
 
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You're guessing good!

I'm looking for that eye-catching orbital configuration
eccentricity = 0.05
obliquity = 23.3
argument of perihelion should be that which denotes Earth in perihelion = measured from spring equinox the angle should be 90 degrees unless their program requires something special... like 90+180 yaddayadda

>> ecc=0.05; obl=23.3; omega=90;
>> daily_insolation([ecc,obl,omega],15,1:1:365,-1)

the extreme is about 507 W/m^2 in the mid summer at latitude 15 degrees
and at latitude 65 it is about 545 W/m^2.

When I put omega at 180 degrees (I don't know why) the extremes are around 490 watts at 15 deg
and at 65 deg 498 watts => the difference is mere 10 W/m^2

So they do come really close!

I don't know how to plot everything that I want as a wander around MATLAB variables...

Sometimes I lose variables during calculation:

>> ecc=0.05; obl=23.3; omega=90;
>> [day lat]=meshgrid(1:5:365, -90:90);
>> [Fsw,ecc,obl,omega]=daily_insolation(0,lat,day);
>> [c,h]=contour(day,lat,Fsw,[0:50:500]);
>> clabel(c,h)

>> disp([ecc,obl,omega])
0.0172 23.4460 281.3700 (should be 0.05, 23.3, 90)
 
  • #7
Excuse me, Earth should be in perihelion according to the questionable graph in the first post, and there should be a summer solstice in the northern hemisphere at that time - at that day

Omega is then +90 degrees from spring equinox. The authors of the program say that equinox is always 80th day. Solstice is on 160th day then.

>> ecc=0.05; obl=23.3; omega=90;
>> daily_insolation([ecc,obl,omega],65,160,-1)

ans =

543.1361

>> daily_insolation([ecc,obl,omega],15,160,-1)

ans =

507.0795

It doesn't look clear.
 
  • #8
Calculated by hand for 21st of June
insolation with extinction
for 15 north and 65 north latitude

1080 W/m^2
753 W/m^2

Altitude over horizon changes the value a lot, but the length of day was 13 hours at 15 degrees north, and 22 hours in Sweden 65 north. Hence the integrated daily average must be the key.

I tried this orbital configuration:

>> ecc=0.05; obl=23.3; omega=90;
>> [day lat]=meshgrid(1:5:365, -90:90);
>> Fsw=daily_insolation([ecc,obl,omega],lat,day,-1);
>> [c,h]=contour(day,lat,Fsw,[0:50:500]);
>> clabel(c,h)

And got a contour graph with vast area from 15 north to the north pole of over 500 W/m^2 daily average insolation over one year period.

Some orbital configuration must be responsible or driving over the edge everything into insane daily average for one day period in far northern solstice.
 
  • #9
Hello everybody!

Yes, there is a difference between 442.5 and 478.3 W/m^2!
A factor of 1.08 which, if cooling were proportional to T^4 (Kelvin), would change T by a factor of 1.02 or 6K! This is a lot!
 

Related to Insolation curves: solar energy on earth

1. What is insolation?

Insolation refers to the amount of solar radiation received on a given surface over a period of time. It is measured in watts per square meter and is influenced by factors such as the angle of the sun's rays, the Earth's atmosphere, and cloud cover.

2. How is insolation related to solar energy?

Solar energy is a form of renewable energy that is generated by capturing the sun's rays and converting them into usable electricity. Insolation is directly related to solar energy because it determines the amount of solar radiation that reaches the Earth's surface and can be harnessed for energy production.

3. How do insolation curves vary throughout the year?

The amount of insolation received on Earth varies throughout the year due to the tilt of the Earth's axis and its revolution around the sun. This results in different angles of the sun's rays hitting the Earth's surface, which affects the amount of solar radiation received. Generally, insolation is higher in the summer months and lower in the winter months.

4. What factors affect insolation curves?

The main factors that affect insolation curves are the angle of the sun's rays, the Earth's atmosphere, and cloud cover. The angle of the sun's rays is influenced by the Earth's tilt and its position in relation to the sun. The Earth's atmosphere can absorb, reflect, or scatter incoming solar radiation, while cloud cover can block or reflect it.

5. How is insolation measured and monitored?

Insolation is typically measured using instruments called pyranometers, which are placed on the Earth's surface and measure the amount of solar radiation received in watts per square meter. These measurements are then used to create insolation curves and track changes in solar energy over time. In addition, satellites also monitor insolation levels from space and provide valuable data for scientists and researchers.

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