Is the Measurement Apparatus made up partly of electrons? Perhaps not.

[PeterDonis]

If I can show you that that it is possible to initiate some kind of ordering or coherency among individual water molecules without changing the temperature, or showing that it is possible to change the inter-molecular structure of liquid water. Is our QFT or QM still sufficient to describe it by perhaps adding extra hamiltonian of some kind?

Theories don't have to account for nonexistent events.

Let's say it's a good example.

You don't get to just help yourself to fanciful examples.

if they are all quantum objects, perhaps some global quantum effects can be recovered?

If you can find experimental evidence of such a thing, we can discuss it. But there's no point in just making up hypotheticals out of thin air.

 

[PeterDonis]

This thread has degenerated into speculation and is now closed.