Is the Minkowksi/Einstein Block Universe theory science?

In summary, Hermann Minkowski, a mathematical physicist and Einstein's math instructor, proposed a radical view of space and time that emerged from experimental physics. He argued that space and time cannot exist independently, but must be combined into a single entity. This idea, known as the block universe theory, suggests that our current understanding of space and time will eventually fade away, and only a union of the two will remain. However, this theory is not falsifiable and is considered a philosophical interpretation of Minkowski's spacetime. While Minkowski is credited with formulating the theory, he was not the originator of the spacetime theories. The Physics Forums has a policy on discussing the block universe theory and this thread is now closed
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Pleonasm
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Hermann Minkowski (Einsteins math instructor and a mathematical physicist himself):

The views of space and time which I wish to lay before you have sprung from the soil of experimental physics, and therein lies their strength. They are radical. Henceforth space by itself, and time by itself, are doomed to fade away into mere shadows, and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.
First of all I should like to show how it might be possible, setting out from the accepted mechanics of the present day, along a purely mathematical line of thought, to arrive at changed ideas of space and time...Three-dimensional geometry becomes a chapter in four-dimensional physics.


It used to be concidered a reasonable inference of spacetime understanding from relativity theory, but is it falsifiable in anyway? There have been strong advocates for decades who since changed their minds and no longer hold the block universe view.

I have a couple of questions for those who still adhere to this theory:

*How does eternalism/block universe theory account for the current stream of "nows" in our lifes, as opposed to those in the past and future. Why is there a special point in spacetime for these particular moments, and what happens to these states of awareness when we die in a subjective, practical sense for the observer?

* Is the block universe theory falsifiable?
 
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Pleonasm said:
How does eternalism/block universe theory account for the current stream of "nows" in our lifes, as opposed to those in the past and future
There are several previous threads on this topic. Most of them ending in a warning or a ban for one or more of the participants. I would encourage you to peruse them first.
Pleonasm said:
Is the block universe theory falsifiable?
It is not falsifiable. It is philosophy (also called an interpretation), not science (meaning not a theory).
 
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Dale said:
There are several previous threads on this topic. Most of them ending in a warning or a ban for one or more of the participants. I would encourage you to peruse the first.
It is not falsifiable. It is philosophy (also called an interpretation), not science (meaning not a theory).

Minkowksi seemed to suggest that it was science.
 
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No, he said it “sprung from the soil” of science, not that it was science itself.

The block universe is a philosophical interpretation of Minkowski’s spacetime. Lorentz’s aether theory is a different philosophical interpretation of the same math and experimental outcomes.
 
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Dale said:
No, he said it “sprung from the soil” of science, not that it was science itself.

The block universe is a philosophical interpretation of Minkowski’s spacetime. Lorentz’s aether theory is a different philosophical interpretation of the same math and experimental outcomes.

Why do you write Minkowski’s spacetime? Minkowksi had nothing to do with the spacetime postulates. He was a mathematical physicist who inferred from the already established relativity theorys.
 
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Pleonasm said:
Why do you write Minkowski’s spacetime?
Because you were quoting Minkowski, and because he was the one who cast the Lorentz transform in terms of a unified spacetime
 
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Dale said:
Because you were quoting Minkowski, and because he was the one who cast the Lorentz transform in terms of a unified spacetime

Yes, Minkowski is the father of the block universe theory. Einstein first rejected it as a consequence of relativity theory but quickly accepted it as the "inevitable" implications. Minkowski was not however the originator of the spacetime theories.
 
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Pleonasm said:
Why do you write Minkowski’s spacetime? Minkowksi had nothing to do with the spacetime postulates. He was a mathematical physicist who inferred from the already established relativity theorys.
It was Minkowski who pointed out that the (still very new and just barely established) theory of special relativity could be formulated as a theory of four-dimensional spacetime. So he gets the credit for that.

The Physics Forums policy on discussions of block universe is here and this thread is closed.
 

1. What is the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory?

The Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory is a concept in physics that proposes that time is not a separate dimension, but rather a part of the four-dimensional space-time continuum. This means that past, present, and future all exist simultaneously and that the perception of time passing is an illusion.

2. Is the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory widely accepted in the scientific community?

The Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory is a debated topic in the scientific community. While some physicists and philosophers support this theory, others argue that it goes against our everyday experience of time and raises questions about free will and the nature of reality.

3. How does the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory relate to Einstein's theory of relativity?

The Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory is based on Einstein's theory of relativity, which states that time and space are intertwined and that the laws of physics are the same for all observers in uniform motion. The theory of relativity is essential to understanding the concept of a block universe where time is a dimension of space.

4. Can the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory be tested or proven?

Currently, there is no way to test or prove the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory. It is a philosophical and theoretical concept that challenges our understanding of time and the universe. However, advancements in technology and physics may one day provide evidence for or against this theory.

5. What are the implications of the Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory?

The Minkowski/Einstein Block Universe theory has significant implications for our understanding of the nature of time, causality, and the concept of free will. It also raises questions about the possibility of time travel and the role of consciousness in shaping our perception of reality.

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