Is there so-called "optimal traction" for vehicles?

In summary, traction is important for a car to have good grip on the road and prevent skidding. A high traction makes the car difficult to steer and also damages both road and tire.
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Consider for vehicle, a low traction indicates a lower road grip, which leads to a skid easier; a high traction makes the vehicle difficult to steer, and also damages both road and tire.

So I am wondering if there is a balance point of the traction in vehicle design such that it is at an optimal state?

Free feel to point out anything i got wrong above. Thanks.
 
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Compromise is the key word here.
For a given wheel and tyre size, a huge factor governing traction is the tyre material. The material for a domestic vehicle tyre is a compromise between adequate grip and tyre life. The optimum for a racing tyre is different. They are expected to wear out within the time of a single race because they need very good grip.
Then there is the compromise for driving conditions. On a dry track, slicks give best traction (no tread) but when there is any water on the track, a grooved tread is needed to push water aside and give a good contact with only half the area.
 
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Jinjolee said:
a high traction makes the vehicle difficult to steer, and also damages both road and tire.
Yes, high traction can result in a fragile tire. The compound used in racing tires is soft and sticky. Crumbles can peel off of it.
Yes, high traction can result in road damage. Putting studs or chains on a snow tire can result in road damage.

It is not clear that there is serious motivation to trade away good grip to gain easier steering, however. Can you give an example?
 
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Jinjolee said:
So I am wondering if there is a balance point of the traction in vehicle design such that it is at an optimal state?
There is not one optimum. It depends on the vehicle's task. For normal consumer cars fuel consumption is a major issue.
 
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Optimal requires a value judgement for "best". Clearly, a government dealing with highway repair budget, will disagree with salesmen of studded tires, about how to define "best".

Even for individual people, the trade-off between performance and price is not something that everyone will agree on.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
It is not clear that there is serious motivation to trade away good grip to gain easier steering, however. Can you give an example?
An example would be steering while the car is stopped. But I also don't think that this is a relevant consideration.
 
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Thanks for your answers.
So could i say "we always want a higher traction for cars to grip the road and prevent skidding. And if this traction is high enough to hinder motions(e.g. hard to steer), we would consider other approach to overcome this problem(e.g. Power steering), instead of decreasing the traction"?
 
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Jinjolee said:
a high traction makes the vehicle difficult to steer, and also damages both road and tire.
High traction doesn't make a car difficult to steer if the car is moving. For public roads, the main case I can think of for steering while a car is stopped is part-way through a parallel parking sequence, and it's unlikely to put much wear on the road or tires. If you look at asphalt roads that show signs of wear, the main locations of deformation are at intersections, due to braking and acceleration. You don't see this type of deformation on streets with parallel parking.
 
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Jinjolee said:
...hard to steer...
Didn't we just explain to you, that this is not a relevant issue?
 

1. What is optimal traction for vehicles?

Optimal traction for vehicles refers to the amount of grip or friction that a vehicle's tires have on the surface of the road. This is important for ensuring the vehicle can accelerate, brake, and turn safely and efficiently.

2. How is optimal traction measured?

Optimal traction can be measured using various methods, such as coefficient of friction tests, traction control system sensors, and tire tread depth gauges. It is also important to consider the type of road surface and weather conditions when measuring traction.

3. What factors affect optimal traction for vehicles?

Several factors can affect optimal traction for vehicles, including tire type and condition, vehicle weight and design, road surface and conditions (such as wet or icy), and driver behavior. These factors can impact the amount of grip and control a vehicle has on the road.

4. Can optimal traction be improved?

Yes, there are ways to improve optimal traction for vehicles. Regularly maintaining and replacing tires, choosing tires with good traction ratings, and adjusting driving behavior to match road conditions are all ways to improve traction. Additionally, advanced technologies such as electronic stability control and all-wheel drive can also help improve traction.

5. What are the dangers of driving without optimal traction?

Driving without optimal traction can increase the risk of accidents, as the vehicle may have less control and stability on the road. It can also cause excessive wear and tear on tires, as well as decrease fuel efficiency. In extreme cases, driving without optimal traction can lead to loss of control and potential rollover accidents.

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