Laplace's equation when there is a point dipole

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of Poisson's equation and Laplace's equation in solving for Laplace's equation when there is a point dipole within the volume. The solution involves treating the dipole as a boundary condition for the potential, which satisfies Laplace's equation for r>0. The conversation also talks about the contradiction that arises when using a point dipole in a problem, as it requires a singularity in the charge density at the location of the dipole. The conversation then goes into detail about the problem of a point charge and a dipole, and the resulting electrostatic potential and field.
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Homework Statement
A point dipole p is imbedded at the center of a sphere of linear
dielectric material (with radius R and dielectric constant r). Find the electric potential inside and outside the sphere.
Relevant Equations
Laplace's equation
I know the solution already, yet I don't understand why I'm able to solve laplace's equation when the volume has a point dipole within; I thought this required Poisson's eauation, which I have no experience in solving. Here is the relevant part of the solution
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Well Poisson's equation, [itex] \nabla^2 \phi = \rho[/itex], reduces to Laplace's equation ## \nabla^2 \phi = 0 ## at any point where the charge distribution is zero. Since the only charge in your problem iis at the origin, your potential satisfies Laplace's equation everywhere except at ##r=0##, which is what your posted solution is doing. Except your solution is also matching the small-r dependence with the potential of a dipole. You can think of it as treating the dipole as a boundary condition for the potential which satisfies Laplace's equation for ##r>0##.
 
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I think there is an inherent contradiction whenever we use a point dipole in a problem, because we say that the charge density ##\rho=0## everywhere, yet there is net dipole moment ##p\neq 0## where as ##p=\int\rho (\mathbf{r'}) (\mathbf{r-r'})d^3\mathbf{r'}## should be zero. If we say that the charge density isn't zero everywhere then we would have to solve Poisson's equation and not Laplace's equation.
 
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Of course, the charge distribution is not ##0## everywhere. It rather has a singularity at the location of the dipole.

It's well worth to consider this in some detail. So let's start from the somewhat simpler problem of point charge, which we put in the origin of our coordinate system. Also there ##\rho(\vec{r})=0## everywhere except at ##\vec{r}=0##, where the charge density must be singular. Formally that's written in terms of the Dirac distribution (where "distribution" here means "generalized function"), i.e.,
$$\rho(\vec{r})=q \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
Now consider a dipole. Intuitively you can think about it as having two charges ##q## and ##-q##. Let's put the negative one at ##\vec{r}=0## and the positive one at some place ##\vec{d}##. Then the charge distribution is
$$\rho(\vec{r}) = q [\delta(\vec{r}-\vec{d})-\delta(\vec{r})]=-q \vec{d} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta(\vec{r}) + \mathcal{O}(q |\vec{d}|^2).$$
Now we consider the limit ##|\vec{d}| \rightarrow 0## such that ##\vec{p} =q \vec{d}=\text{const}##. Then the contributions to higher order vanish, and you get
$$\rho(\vec{r})=-\vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
The electrostatic potential becomes
$$\Phi(\vec{r})=\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 r' \frac{\rho(\vec{r}')}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 |\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} =- \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \frac{1}{4 \pi |\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} \vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla}' \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}').$$
Integration by parts gives [EDIT: corrected in view of #5]
$$\Phi(\vec{r})=+ \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 r' \vec{p} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}') \cdot \vec{\nabla}' \frac{1}{|\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} =\frac{\vec{p} \cdot \vec{r}}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^3},$$
i.e., the dipole field.

So you get
$$\Delta \frac{\vec{p} \cdot \vec{r}}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^3}=-\frac{1}{\epsilon}_0 \rho(\vec{r})=\frac{1}{\epsilon_0} \vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
 
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Of course, the charge distribution is not ##0## everywhere. It rather has a singularity at the location of the dipole.

It's well worth to consider this in some detail. So let's start from the somewhat simpler problem of point charge, which we put in the origin of our coordinate system. Also there ##\rho(\vec{r})=0## everywhere except at ##\vec{r}=0##, where the charge density must be singular. Formally that's written in terms of the Dirac distribution (where "distribution" here means "generalized function"), i.e.,
$$\rho(\vec{r})=q \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
Now consider a dipole. Intuitively you can think about it as having two charges ##q## and ##-q##. Let's put the negative one at ##\vec{r}=0## and the positive one at some place ##\vec{d}##. Then the charge distribution is
$$\rho(\vec{r}) = q [\delta(\vec{r}-\vec{d})-\delta(\vec{r})]=-q \vec{d} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta(\vec{r}) + \mathcal{O}(q |\vec{d}|^2).$$
Now we consider the limit ##|\vec{d}| \rightarrow 0## such that ##\vec{p} =q \vec{d}=\text{const}##. Then the contributions to higher order vanish, and you get
$$\rho(\vec{r})=-\vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
The electrostatic potential becomes
$$\Phi(\vec{r})=\int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 r' \frac{\rho(\vec{r}')}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 |\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} =- \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \frac{1}{4 \pi |\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} \vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla}' \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}').$$
Integration by parts gives
$$\Phi(\vec{r})=+ \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_0} \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 r' \vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla}' \frac{1}{|\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|} =\frac{\vec{p} \cdot \vec{r}}{|4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^3},$$
i.e., the dipole field.

So you get
$$\Delta \frac{\vec{p} \cdot \vec{r}}{4 \pi \epsilon_0 r^3}=-\frac{1}{\epsilon}_0 \rho(\vec{r})=\frac{1}{\epsilon_0} \vec{p} \cdot \vec{\nabla} \delta^{(3)}(\vec{r}).$$
Thanks for saving me 20 minites of typing on the phone! 😁

Edit: Missing a delta distribution in the integral after partial integration though.
 
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1. What is Laplace's equation?

Laplace's equation is a partial differential equation that describes the behavior of a scalar field in a given region. It is used in many areas of physics and engineering, including electromagnetism, fluid dynamics, and heat transfer.

2. How does a point dipole affect Laplace's equation?

A point dipole is a pair of equal and opposite charges that are very close together. In Laplace's equation, a point dipole creates a singularity, or a point where the equation is undefined, at its location. This singularity can affect the behavior of the scalar field in the surrounding region.

3. What are the boundary conditions for Laplace's equation with a point dipole?

The boundary conditions for Laplace's equation with a point dipole depend on the specific problem being studied. However, in general, the boundary conditions will include the value of the scalar field at the location of the point dipole, as well as any known values or constraints at other points in the region.

4. How is Laplace's equation with a point dipole solved?

Laplace's equation with a point dipole is typically solved using analytical or numerical methods. Analytical solutions involve using mathematical techniques to find an exact solution, while numerical solutions involve using computers to approximate a solution. The specific method used will depend on the complexity of the problem and the desired level of accuracy.

5. What are some real-world applications of Laplace's equation with a point dipole?

Laplace's equation with a point dipole has many practical applications, including modeling the electric field around a small charged object, such as an atom or molecule, and calculating the flow of heat or fluid around a small obstacle. It is also used in the design of electronic circuits and the study of electrostatics in materials science.

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