Lorentz Invariance of Lagrangian: Proof & Explanation

In summary, the Lagrangian density for the Klein-Gordon equation only involves first-order derivatives, making it Lorentz Invariant. A proof of this fact can be found by playing around with the action of a nonrelativistic point particle and writing down invariant combinations of position, velocity, and acceleration.
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I've just read that for a Lagrangian to be Lorentz Invariant the Lagrangian density cannot have second or higher derivatives.
Last day in class, a professor told us that, for a Lagrangian to be Lorentz Invariant, the Lagrangian density cannot have second or higher derivatives. Is this true?
Because one can write the KG lagrangian as $$\mathscr{L}=\phi(\square + m^2)\phi,$$ which have second derivatives.

And, where can I find a proof of this fact?

Thank you
 
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"I've just read..." where?

It's simply not true. You can perfectly write down Lorentz-covariant terms with higher order derivatives (e.g. look at the equations of motion, as you mention!)
 
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Gaussian97 said:
Summary:: I've just read that for a Lagrangian to be Lorentz Invariant the Lagrangian density cannot have second or higher derivatives.

Last day in class, a professor told us that, for a Lagrangian to be Lorentz Invariant, the Lagrangian density cannot have second or higher derivatives. Is this true?
Because one can write the KG lagrangian as $$\mathscr{L}=\phi(\square + m^2)\phi,$$ which have second derivatives.

And, where can I find a proof of this fact?

Thank you

The Lagrangian density for the Klein-Gordon equation is
$$\mathscr{L} = \frac 1 2 (\partial_{\mu} \phi)^2 - \frac 1 2 m^2\phi^2$$
Which involves only first-order derivatives.
 
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The Lagrangian density for the Klein-Gordon equation is
$$\mathscr{L} = \frac 1 2 (\partial_{\mu} \phi)^2 - \frac 1 2 m^2\phi^2$$
Which involves only first-order derivatives.
Which is equivalent to the Lagrangian given by the OP by partial integration (and up to multiplication by a constant).
 
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What could help is to play around with the action of a nonrelativistic point particle, what kind of actions are possible, what the order of derivatives is and what kind of boundary conditions you need.

Just write down (via an inner priduct) some invariant combinations of the position, velocity, acceleration etc. and see what you get upon varying.
 
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What is Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian?

Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the laws of physics should remain the same for all observers in different inertial frames of reference. This means that the mathematical description of a physical system, known as the Lagrangian, should not change when observed from different perspectives.

Why is Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian important?

Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian is important because it is a fundamental principle that underlies many key theories in physics, such as relativity and quantum field theory. It allows us to make accurate predictions about the behavior of physical systems and has been extensively tested and confirmed by experiments.

What is the proof of Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian?

The proof of Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian is based on the mathematical framework of special relativity. It involves showing that the Lagrangian remains unchanged under Lorentz transformations, which are mathematical equations that describe how physical quantities change when observed from different inertial frames of reference.

Can Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian be violated?

There is currently no evidence to suggest that Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian can be violated. It has been extensively tested and confirmed by experiments, including high-energy particle collisions and measurements of the properties of particles such as electrons and photons. However, some theories, such as string theory, suggest that it may be possible for Lorentz invariance to be violated at very small scales.

How does Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian relate to other fundamental principles in physics?

Lorentz invariance of Lagrangian is closely related to other fundamental principles in physics, such as the principle of relativity and the principle of least action. It is also a key component of the Standard Model of particle physics, which describes the behavior of fundamental particles and their interactions. Additionally, it is a crucial aspect of the mathematical framework used in quantum field theory, which is a fundamental theory of matter and forces.

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