Majorana neutrinos, sphaleron reactions, baryon asymmetry

In summary: This means that the asymmetry between baryons and leptons is proportional to the B-L current.Thanks for your summary.
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I`ve spent some time reading about the baryon asymmetry and the Sakharov`s conditions, and there some things I didn't exactly get:
1. Interactions out of thermal equilibrium: isn't it trivial? our universe is expanding so, of course, it out of equilibrium.
2. CP violation: I`ve read that Cronin and Fitch experiment proves that issue, the problem is that the amount of the CP violation there is too small to explain the baryon asymmetry in the universe.
3. Baryon number B violation.

My question is how can you solve problem 2. 3. using the lepton sector. Or more precisely by using the Majorana neutrinos in the lepton sector, making a lepton asymmetry.
And how do you convert it to a baryon asymmetry using the sphaleron reactions? (An explanation about those reactions would be nice since I'm not that familiar with them).

Thanks!
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
Interactions out of thermal equilibrium: isn't it trivial? our universe is expanding so, of course, it out of equilibrium.
No, it is not trivial. Just like you need CP violation to be large enough, you need a system that is sufficiently far away from thermal equilibrium. For this to occur you essentially need the Hubble rate to be larger than the interaction rate of whatever process would keep your system in thermal equilibrium or, in other words, the timescale of interactions needs to be larger than the age of the universe.

Kajagoogooooooo said:
CP violation: I`ve read that Cronin and Fitch experiment proves that issue, the problem is that the amount of the CP violation there is too small to explain the baryon asymmetry in the universe.
More precisely, the known CP violation in the quark sector is to small for electroweak baryogenesis to produce the observed baryon asymmetry.
Kajagoogooooooo said:
Baryon number B violation
Baryon number is violated in the SM. Let us come back to this.

Kajagoogooooooo said:
My question is how can you solve problem 2. 3. using the lepton sector. Or more precisely by using the Majorana neutrinos in the lepton sector, making a lepton asymmetry.
Let us go by steps. First, the creation of a lepton asymmetry is subject to the same Sakharov conditions as baryon number generation, but of course with L rather than B violation.

A popular way of introducing small neutrino masses into the SM is to extend it with right-handed (RH) neutrinos. This allows Yukawa couplings between the left-handed lepton doiblet, RH neutrinos, and the Higgs field that when the Higgs field takes a vev results in a Dirac mass term for neutrinos. However, since they are SM singlets, the RH neutrinos also allow for a Majorana mass term. A priori, the mass scale of this mass term is unknown as it is unrelated to any known scale. If it is chosen to be very large, it suppresses the masses of the LH neutrinos, which essentially go as ##m^2/M## where m is the Dirac mass and M the RH Majorana mass, giving a possible explanation of why SM neutrinos are so light. It is also quite natural to consider large M as a result of an extended symmetry broken at some high scale.

So far we have only wanted to explain neutrino masses, but let us consider the phenomenological implications in the early Universe. At the very early stage, the RH neutrinos would be held in thermal equilibrium with the SM. However, at some point the number of RH neutrino freezes out and are therefore out of equilibrium. The RH neutrinos decay through the very same Yukawa couplings as mentioned earlier. With CP violation in these Yukawa couplings, the branching ratio to final states containing a lepton will not be the same as that to final states containing an anti-lepton, thus providing violation of both CP and L and therefore all Sakharov conditions for producing a lepton asymmetry are satisfied.

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And how do you convert it to a baryon asymmetry using the sphaleron reactions? (An explanation about those reactions would be nice since I'm not that familiar with them).
They are typically referred to as sphaleron processes, not reactions, as they are a non-perturbative QFT effect. It is not easy to provide an I-level explanation (it is not easy to provide an A-level explanation either), but let us wave our hands around for a bit.

In the classical SM, both B and L are accidental symmetries and therefore conserved. However, on the quantum level, the B and L currents are anomalous, implying that their divergence is non-zero, leading to a B and L source term. Thus B and L are not conserved, but their non-conservation is proportional to an integer set by the different between different vacuum configurations of the electroweak gauge fields. The integer is proportional to the number of generations, ie, 3 in the SM, meaning that between different electroweak vacua, the baryon and lepton numbers changes by three units. However, the B-L current is non-anomalous and B-L is therefore conserved while B+L is not. At the present, these transitions are suppressed by an energy barrier, but in the early Universe they were very active as the temperature was higher. This means that part of whatever B or L symmetry will be transferred to the other sector as long as the sphaleron processes are in equilibrium. You can find out what this ratio is by considering the chemical potentials of all species in the early Universe. In other words, if you produce an asymmetry in L while sphaleron processes are active, part of that asymmetry will be converted into a baryon asymmetry.

For the baryon asymmetry, the Sakharov conditions of out of thermal equilibrium and C and CP violation are satisfied by the (extended) lepton sector, while baryon number violation occurs through the SM sphaleron processes.

Standard introductory references on leptogenesis are Leptogenesis for pedestrians or Baryogenesis via leptogenesis. You can probably find more information in those introductions.

Of course, there is quite a bit more going on than what I had time to discuss here and you can discuss many many more effects and possibilities to lower the scale at which leptogenesis occurs, but the above covers the main ideas.
 
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Orodruin said:
A popular way of introducing small neutrino masses into the SM is to extend it with right-handed (RH) neutrinos. This allows Yukawa couplings between the left-handed lepton doiblet, RH neutrinos, and the Higgs field that when the Higgs field takes a vev results in a Dirac mass term for neutrinos. However, since they are SM singlets, the RH neutrinos also allow for a Majorana mass term. A priori, the mass scale of this mass term is unknown as it is unrelated to any known scale. If it is chosen to be very large, it suppresses the masses of the LH neutrinos, which essentially go as m2/Mm2/Mm^2/M where m is the Dirac mass and M the RH Majorana mass, giving a possible explanation of why SM neutrinos are so light. It is also quite natural to consider large M as a result of an extended symmetry broken at some high scale.
Can you try to explain this so B.S. degree graduate would understand?
I`ve tried reading about this on the net, but found a hard time understanding what is it: Dirac mass, SM singlets and what it has to do with vev results?
Orodruin said:
So far we have only wanted to explain neutrino masses, but let us consider the phenomenological implications in the early Universe. At the very early stage, the RH neutrinos would be held in thermal equilibrium with the SM. However, at some point the number of RH neutrino freezes out and are therefore out of equilibrium. The RH neutrinos decay through the very same Yukawa couplings as mentioned earlier. With CP violation in these Yukawa couplings, the branching ratio to final states containing a lepton will not be the same as that to final states containing an anti-lepton, thus providing violation of both CP and L and therefore all Sakharov conditions for producing a lepton asymmetry are satisfied.
On what articles or models do you base those statements?
any references?
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
Can you try to explain this so B.S. degree graduate would understand?
I`ve tried reading about this on the net, but found a hard time understanding what is it: Dirac mass, SM singlets and what it has to do with vev results?
Generally, massive fermions can be Dirac or Majorana particles. However, they can only be Majorana particles if they are not charged under any of the interactions of your model. This is what it means to be a SM singlet, it has no charge and can therefore have a Majorana mass, so if you introduce right-handed neutrinos, they can have a Majorana mass.

In addition, when you introduce right-handed neutrinos, you can add a Dirac mass term, which is just the same way as you give quarks and charged leptons Dirac masses. A property of Dirac masses is that they are mass terms that involve both left- and right-handed particles. Overall, this means that you have a Majorana mass matrix of the form
$$
\begin{pmatrix}
0 & m \\ m & M
\end{pmatrix},
$$
where ##m## is the Dirac mass between the left- and right-handed neutrinos and ##M## is the Majorana mass of the right-handed neutrinos. Note that the upper left element is zero because left-handed neutrinos are charged under the weak interactions of the SM and therefore cannot have a Majorana mass terms (this is a truth with modification, but let us assume it for now). The absolute values of the eigenvalues of this mass matrix are the masses of the particles. In the case that ##M = 0##, you would recover a single Dirac fermion with mass ##m## (a Dirac fermion has twice the number of degrees of freedom as compared to a Majorana fermion). On the other hand, if you have ##m \ll M## then the absolute values of the eigenvalues of the mass matrix are ##m_1 \simeq m^2/M## and ##m_2 \simeq M##, i.e., one very heavy Majorana fermion (essentially the right-handed neutrino) and one very light Majorana fermion (essentially the left-handed neutrino).

The vacuum expectation value (vev) of the Higgs field enters into the picture through the Dirac mass term. A bare Dirac mass term is not allowed on the Lagrangian level as it would break electroweak gauge symmetry. However, an interaction term involving the Higgs field, the LH neutrino, and the RH neutrino is allowed. Once the Higgs field takes a vev, a remnant of this interaction is a Dirac mass term. (This is the source for all Dirac fermion mass terms in the SM, i.e., those of quarks and charged leptons.)

I am not sure it can be put on a more basic level than that without losing a lot of the content.
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
On what articles or models do you base those statements?
any references?
This should be discussed in the introduction articles mentioned in #2.
 
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Orodruin said:
This is what it means to be a SM singlet, it has no charge and can therefore have a Majorana mass, so if you introduce right-handed neutrinos, they can have a Majorana mass.
and a left-handed lepton doublet as you have said, are particles that do interact in my model, and as a result, I cannot define them by having a mass (Majorana neither Dirac)?
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
and a left-handed lepton doublet as you have said, are particles that do interact in my model, and as a result, I cannot define them by having a mass (Majorana neither Dirac)?
Not before electroweak symmetry breaking, no.
 
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Orodruin said:
Not before electroweak symmetry breaking, no.
Thanks a lot!
Just one more thing,
I have read that there are mechanisms that generate the asymmetry directly from the baryons like Affleck-Dine baryogenesis.
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/14/12/125013
This article was the best I found from a quick search but there are too many concepts that are out of my hands.
Can you please explain this mechanism a bit? or explain a good mechanism you know that goes directly from baryogenesis?
A good article will be good too (even though an explanation will be better of course)

Again thanks a lot!

BTW:

Is it important to ask for C and CP violation?
CP violation alone is not enough?
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
Thanks a lot!
Just one more thing,
I have read that there are mechanisms that generate the asymmetry directly from the baryons like Affleck-Dine baryogenesis.
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/14/12/125013
This article was the best I found from a quick search but there are too many concepts that are out of my hands.
Can you please explain this mechanism a bit? or explain a good mechanism you know that goes directly from baryogenesis?
A good article will be good too (even though an explanation will be better of course)

What do you want to know that is not covered by the article?

Is it important to ask for C and CP violation?
CP violation alone is not enough?

Yes. Both are important.
 
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Orodruin said:
What do you want to know that is not covered by the article?
What I understood about the AD from the article it that is generated from the Super Symmetry Theory,
which means that we take every boson`s superpartner (bosonino) or the superpartner of the fermion (sfermion)
and by inflation fields from CP violation (don't know what it is) we cause the superpartners to become their original partners.
This process leads to a baryon asymmetry.
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
What I understood about the AD from the article it that is generated from the Super Symmetry Theory,
which means that we take every boson`s superpartner (bosonino) or the superpartner of the fermion (sfermion)
and by inflation fields from CP violation (don't know what it is) we cause the superpartners to become their original partners.
This process leads to a baryon asymmetry.
Unfortunately, this is a rather garbled up version. I would suggest learning more about cosmology and particle physics in order to understand it better.

How Affleck-Dine would actually occur is roughly along the lines:
  • In the early Universe, after inflation, the superpartners interact with the inflaton field. The inflaton field is a hypothetical field that would drive an inflationary phase of the early Universe. After inflation ends, the Universe would be essentially empty with only the inflaton field left.
  • The energy stored in the inflaton field would reheat the Universe through its interactions with other fields. This is what eventually leads to the hot Big Bang of standard cosmology.
  • The interactions of the inflaton field with the supersymmetric partners of the SM baryon number carrying particles could violate C and CP as well as baryon number, thereby possibly satisfying the corresponding Sakharov condition and creating a net baryon number.
  • The decays of those particles to standard model particles would then lead to a non-zero baryon number in the standard model sector.
Note that these are all rather complex issues and in order to understand them properly you need several years of studying cosmology and particle physics.
 
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Orodruin said:
More precisely, the known CP violation in the quark sector is to small for electroweak baryogenesis to produce the observed baryon asymmetry.
The ratio of baryon-antibaryon to photon is around 10^-10.
The CP violation we have seen (1 to 500 in Cronin and Fitch experiment) is not enough to explain this ratio,
But I'm not sure, what the ratio had to be so we will be able to explain it with this amount of CP violation?
Or in other words, how much CP violation is needed in order to explain this ratio?

Thanks a lot!
 
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There is a dimensionless way to express the size of the CP violation. I don't remember the exact formula and I don't find it any more, but it involved the particle masses. A large CP violation would mean our world would look completely different.
 
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mfb said:
There is a dimensionless way to express the size of the CP violation. I don't remember the exact formula and I don't find it any more, but it involved the particle masses. A large CP violation would mean our world would look completely different.
This formula is exactly what I lack, otherwise, we can`t really say the CP violation in the Cronin-Fitch experiment is too low without comparing it to the eta ratio of (baryon-antibaryon)/photons.
Where the photons are those from the CMB.

Thanks again!
 
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You really cannot go from CP-violation to a baryon-antibaryon asymmetry by some easy formula as it depends on other things apart from CP-violation (see Sakharov conditions).

mfb said:
There is a dimensionless way to express the size of the CP violation.
Are you perhaps thinking of the Jarlskog invariant?
 
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Orodruin said:
Are you perhaps thinking of the Jarlskog invariant?
No, I'm sure it had particle masses in it. But I saw it many years ago in some talk and don't remember how exactly.
 
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Orodruin said:
You really cannot go from CP-violation to a baryon-antibaryon asymmetry by some easy formula as it depends on other things apart from CP-violation (see Sakharov conditions).
The standard model fulfills all Sakharov conditions, the problem is that the CP violation is too small.
My problem is as mfb said is to find the equation through which you will be able to compare the CP violation to the ratio mentioned above.
Am I right? @mfb
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
The standard model fulfills all Sakharov conditions, the problem is that the CP violation is too small.
I am fully aware of that and that is my point. You cannot go from CP violation directly to a baryon asymmetry because there are also other Sakharov conditions that need to be satisfied. How they are satisfied and to what extent will influence the final asymmetry, just as changing the amount of CP violation will.
 
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Orodruin said:
I am fully aware of that and that is my point. You cannot go from CP violation directly to a baryon asymmetry because there are also other Sakharov conditions that need to be satisfied. How they are satisfied and to what extent will influence the final asymmetry, just as changing the amount of CP violation will.
I understand your point.
My problem is that one might say that we don`t need a model beyond the SM because it is good enough.
I want a proof that the numbers we get from the SM are not sufficient in order to explain the ratio I`ve mentioned above.
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
I understand your point.
My problem is that one might say that we don`t need a model beyond the SM because it is good enough.
I want a proof that the numbers we get from the SM are not sufficient in order to explain the ratio I`ve mentioned above.
You really cannot do that at I level. You need to go through the gritty details of the computation of the SM prediction. This is the original reference:

Standard model CP-violation and baryon asymmetry (II). Finite temperature
Gavela et al., Nucl.Phys. B430 (1994) 382-426
https://doi.org/10.1016/0550-3213(94)00410-2

or the free arXiv version
https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9406289
 
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Orodruin said:
You really cannot do that at I level. You need to go through the gritty details of the computation of the SM prediction. This is the original reference:

Standard model CP-violation and baryon asymmetry (II). Finite temperature
Gavela et al., Nucl.Phys. B430 (1994) 382-426
https://doi.org/10.1016/0550-3213(94)00410-2

or the free arXiv version
https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/9406289
I tried to read the article you attached,
but found hard time to understand it as you said.
Thanks for the reference anyway.
mfb said:
No, I'm sure it had particle masses in it. But I saw it many years ago in some talk and don't remember how exactly.
Is the reference that was mentioned is related to the equation you mentioned?
 
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Kajagoogooooooo said:
Is the reference that was mentioned is related to the equation you mentioned?
Related, but it is not what I was talking about.
 
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1. What are Majorana neutrinos?

Majorana neutrinos are hypothetical particles that are predicted by some theories in physics. These particles are believed to be electrically neutral, have no color charge, and have a very small mass compared to other particles. They are also predicted to be their own antiparticles, meaning that they are identical to their antiparticles.

2. What is a sphaleron reaction?

A sphaleron reaction is a type of process in particle physics that involves the conversion of baryon number (a quantum number that represents the number of baryons, such as protons and neutrons, in a system) into lepton number (a quantum number that represents the number of leptons, such as electrons and neutrinos, in a system). This process is important in understanding the baryon asymmetry problem.

3. What is the baryon asymmetry problem?

The baryon asymmetry problem is a major puzzle in physics that seeks to explain why there is an imbalance between matter and antimatter in the universe. According to the laws of physics, matter and antimatter should have been created in equal amounts during the early stages of the universe. However, observations show that there is much more matter than antimatter in the universe. Understanding the processes that could lead to this asymmetry, such as sphaleron reactions, is an ongoing area of research.

4. How are Majorana neutrinos related to the baryon asymmetry problem?

One proposed explanation for the baryon asymmetry problem involves the existence of Majorana neutrinos. These particles are predicted to have the ability to violate lepton number conservation, which could in turn lead to an imbalance between matter and antimatter in the early universe. Additionally, the study of Majorana neutrinos could provide insights into other processes that could contribute to the asymmetry, such as sphaleron reactions.

5. What is the current understanding of the relationship between sphaleron reactions and the baryon asymmetry problem?

While sphaleron reactions have been proposed as a potential explanation for the baryon asymmetry problem, there is currently no consensus among scientists on their role in creating this imbalance. Some theories suggest that sphaleron reactions could have played a significant role in the early universe, while others propose alternative explanations. Further research and experiments are needed to fully understand the connection between sphaleron reactions and the baryon asymmetry problem.

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