Maxwell Distribution: Deriving Mean and Max Speed

In summary, the conversation discusses how to find the mean speed and maximum speed of particles using the distribution function. The equations for the mean speed and maximum speed are given, and the conversation discusses using standard integrals and the product rule for differentiation to find these values. There is also a mention of using the probability function and setting up an integral to calculate the mean speed.
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Homework Statement




show that the mean speed of the particles (v-bar) and the speed of the maximum of the distribution are given by

v-bar=((8kT)/(pi*m))^(1/2)
and
v-max=((2kT)/m)^(1/2)

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


tried looking thru noted and textbook. i sussed that one is supposed to use standard integrals, but no notes or textbook is telling me how or where
please help, thanks in advance
 
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Do you have an expression for the distribution function? How would normally find the maximum of a function?
 
  • #3
thanks for the suggestion
ok, so the distribution function is
p(v) is proportional to v^2 exp(-mv^2 /2kT)
so i differentiate it and get
dp/dv is proportional to (-m/2kT)*2v^3 exp(-mv^2 /2kT)=0
hmm
 
  • #4
Not a bad start, that's the right idea, but you didn't differentiate correctly.

p(v) is proportional to v2·e-mv2/2kT,
or in other words (a function of v)·(another function of v).

Use the product rule for differentiation to find the derivative.
 
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i got it
thanks a lot
still clueless on the mean speed tho
 
  • #6
The mean of a quantity is often calculated by using it's probability function and setting up an integral ... are you familiar with that method?
 

Related to Maxwell Distribution: Deriving Mean and Max Speed

1. What is Maxwell distribution?

Maxwell distribution is a probability distribution that describes the speeds of particles in a gas at a specific temperature. It is also known as the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution, named after the scientists James Clerk Maxwell and Ludwig Boltzmann.

2. How is the mean speed derived in Maxwell distribution?

The mean speed in Maxwell distribution is derived by integrating the speed probability distribution function over all possible speeds. This gives us the average speed of particles in a gas at a given temperature.

3. What is the significance of the Maxwell distribution?

The Maxwell distribution allows us to understand the behavior of gases at a molecular level. It helps us predict the speed distribution of particles in a gas and is the foundation of many important concepts in thermodynamics and statistical mechanics.

4. Can Maxwell distribution be applied to all gases?

Yes, Maxwell distribution can be applied to all gases, regardless of their composition or properties. It is a fundamental concept in physics and applies to all gases as long as the temperature is known.

5. How does temperature affect the Maxwell distribution?

Temperature has a direct effect on the Maxwell distribution. As the temperature increases, the distribution shifts towards higher speeds, indicating that more particles have higher speeds. This is because temperature is directly proportional to the average kinetic energy of particles, which affects their speed.

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