Orifice Diameter Impact on Vortex Formation

In summary: Drawings/WSUD%2009_Vortex%20Flow%20 ...In summary, the orifice diameter can affect the vortex forming, but there is not much information available online.
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can anyone tell me how the orifice diameter can affect the vortex forming ?
no much info from internet , thanks for help~:smile:
 
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hao1030, Welcome to Physics Forums!

Are you asking about a "bathtub" vortex? What orfice are you referring to? Will you please describe your experimental setup in more detail? This will help all the members here to respond more effectively.

Thank you, Bobbywhy
 
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Bobbywhy said:
hao1030, Welcome to Physics Forums!

Are you asking about a "bathtub" vortex? What orfice are you referring to? Will you please describe your experimental setup in more detail? This will help all the members here to respond more effectively.

Thank you, Bobbywhy

it is water vortex power plant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation_water_vortex_power_plant
i have a basin with a certain orifice diameter , i want to know how this orifice can influence my vortex forming and it height/ strength .
 
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Check PF
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=9987

http://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/tech/fluids/vortex.htm

http://depts.washington.edu/chemcrs/bulkdisk/chem520A_aut05/notes_Week_05_Lecture_11.pdf

Vortex was investigated by Lord Levin and Helmholtz in the 1800's so you might want to search for their theorems.
 
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Hope this helps! Here find a pdf document with the mathematical formula for controlling the outflow (which appears to be applicable from a water vortex) by varying the cross sectional area of the opening:

618 WSUD09: CONFERENCE PROCEEDINGS
TOWARDS WATER SENSITIVE CITIES AND CITIZENS: THE 6TH INTERNATIONAL WATER SENSITIVE URBAN DESIGN CONFERENCE AND HYDROPOLIS #3

Flow Controls
Conventional flow control devices such as orifice plates, throttle pipes and penstocks have traditionally been used for controlling outflows from retention and detention structures. The fundamental equation governing the operating characteristics of most flow control devices is given by equation 1: The formula shows that in order to reduce flow rate (Q) for a given operating head (h), you either need to reduce the cross sectional area (A) of the outlet or the co-efficient of discharge (Cd) for the flow control device. Orifice plates have a fixed co-efficient of discharge (typically ~ 0.6) which means that smaller aperture sizes are needed to reduce flow rates.

Where Q = Continuation flow in m3/s
Cd = Coefficient of discharge
A = Cross-sectional area of outlet (m2)
g = Acceleration due to gravity (m/s2)
h = Differential head across flow control (m)
Q = Cd A 2 gh

www.rocla.com.au/Drawings/WSUD%2009_Vortex%20Flow%20 ...
 
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Related to Orifice Diameter Impact on Vortex Formation

1. How does the orifice diameter affect vortex formation?

The orifice diameter has a direct impact on vortex formation. A larger orifice diameter creates a wider and stronger vortex, while a smaller orifice diameter produces a smaller and weaker vortex.

2. What is the optimal orifice diameter for vortex formation?

The optimal orifice diameter for vortex formation varies depending on the specific conditions and parameters of the system. In general, a larger orifice diameter will result in a more stable and stronger vortex, but it may also require more energy input.

3. Can changing the orifice diameter affect the direction of the vortex?

Yes, changing the orifice diameter can affect the direction of the vortex. A larger orifice diameter tends to produce a clockwise vortex, while a smaller orifice diameter typically creates a counterclockwise vortex.

4. How does the fluid viscosity impact the relationship between orifice diameter and vortex formation?

Fluid viscosity plays a role in the relationship between orifice diameter and vortex formation. Higher viscosity fluids tend to produce smaller and weaker vortices, while lower viscosity fluids can result in larger and stronger vortices for the same orifice diameter.

5. Is there a limit to how large or small the orifice diameter can be for vortex formation?

There is no specific limit to how large or small the orifice diameter can be for vortex formation. However, as the orifice diameter approaches zero, the vortex formation may become unstable and unpredictable. Similarly, as the orifice diameter becomes too large, the vortex may become too turbulent and chaotic.

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