Physical interpretation of Schrodinger equation

In summary: Schrodinger equation is the very first step when we start learning QM. However, I never learned about the physical meaning of it.
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Schrodinger Equation is the very first step when we start learning QM. However, I never learned about the physical meaning of it. I have read a number of articles and discussion online. Regarding the ones I understand, there are generally two points of view.

1. Fundamental physical laws are not understandable but only accepted. Just like F=ma, we generally accept the definition of this physical quantity and develop our classical mechanical theory. The same applies to SE. We can only accept it and to develop our physics on it.

2. The Schrodinger Equation try to describe things (e.g. electrons) in a way similar to the classical wave theory. SE provides us a way to calculate the wave function.

If 1 is the way we see SE, I am wondering how Schrodinger could come up with that equation which is so much complicated than F=ma. Or in other words, I can believe that Newton can invent F=ma only by imagination but not SE. If we interpret SE like 2 does, what is the physical meaning of each detail variable and constants? I saw a lot of articles only give qualitative arguments. How is the wave function relates to ħ, and how do we relate the SE to classical wave theory?

Sometimes it is discouraging if I only focus on the math. Solving the PDE and ODE for several hours to obtain the wave functions of, say Hydrogen atom, seems to do nth with physics, if I don't even have a sense of the SE.
 
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Its actually a combination of 1 and 2. Yes, Schrodinger was searching for a wave equation. No, what we're talking about is not actually classical waves!
At first de Broglie proposed that particles show wave-like behavior and have a corresponding wave-length given by ## \lambda=\frac h p ##. Schrodinger wanted to find out what wave equation those waves should satisfy. His reasoning was that just like geometric optics which is the long wave-length limit of wave optics(Maxwell's equations), there should be a wave equation whose long wave-length limit gives classical mechanics(Hamilton-Jacobi equation). But it was just an analogy, wave-functions in wave mechanics don't describe classical waves like sound waves or EM waves or etc.
 
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Chan Pok Fung said:
I am wondering how Schrodinger could come up with that equation

At that time, the idea of "particles as waves" was in the air, thanks to de Broglie. Schrödinger set out to find a wave equation for these waves. Basically, he made the following analogies:

Classical mechanics <--> geometrical optics (based on Fermat's principle)
Quantum mechanics <--> wave optics (based on Huygens's principle)

https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/schrodingers-equation.57867/#post-418069
 
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Things become not that obvious in quantum mechanics. I can hardly get a feel of it. In classical mechanics, in many cases, I can visualise the physical picture. But in quantum mechanics, I don't even know whether my calculation result make sense.
 
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The Schrödinger equation describes the evolution of the quantum state of a single- or many-body system in the case that the particle number is strictly conserved. The meaning of the wave function is that its square is the probability distribution to find the particle(s) at (a) position(s). There is no wave-particle duality thanks to this Born rule, and this resolves all the contradictions and quibbles of the old-fashioned quantum theory which is simply outdated and should not be taught anymore except in lectures on the history of science.
 
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Chan Pok Fung said:
Schrodinger Equation is the very first step when we start learning QM. However, I never learned about the physical meaning of it

Read the first 3 chapters of Ballentine.

Its physical meaning is symmetry, but that revelation you must discover for yourself.

One professor posts when he teaches students he gets stunned silence - its that profound.

Strangely philosophy types don't discuss it - yet it can be argued as physics greatest insight.

Thanks
Bill
 
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Philosophers rather engage in useless ideas about the "meaning" of quantum theory rather than to study the theory itself, let alone the symmetry principles behind all of physics. Ironically symmetry principles are longer a topic in philosophy than in the natural sciences. Take e.g., Platon's Timaios.
 
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Related to Physical interpretation of Schrodinger equation

1. What is the physical meaning of the Schrodinger equation?

The Schrodinger equation is a fundamental equation in quantum mechanics that describes how the wave function of a quantum system evolves over time. It relates the energy of a system to the wave function and allows us to predict the probability of finding a particle in a particular location. Essentially, it tells us how particles behave on a microscopic scale.

2. How does the Schrodinger equation differ from classical mechanics?

The Schrodinger equation differs from classical mechanics in that it deals with the wave-like behavior of particles on a microscopic scale, rather than the deterministic behavior of classical particles. It takes into account the uncertainty and probabilistic nature of quantum systems, which is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics.

3. Can the Schrodinger equation be applied to all systems?

Yes, the Schrodinger equation can be applied to all quantum systems, including atoms, molecules, and subatomic particles. It is a universal equation that accurately describes the behavior of these systems, as long as they are not moving at relativistic speeds.

4. What is the role of the wave function in the Schrodinger equation?

The wave function is a mathematical representation of a quantum system that contains all the information about the system's state. In the Schrodinger equation, the wave function is used to calculate the probability of finding a particle in a particular location. It evolves over time according to the Schrodinger equation and allows us to make predictions about the behavior of quantum systems.

5. How does the Schrodinger equation relate to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

The Schrodinger equation and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle are two fundamental principles of quantum mechanics. The Schrodinger equation describes the probabilistic behavior of particles, while the Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that there is a fundamental limit to how accurately we can know certain properties of a particle, such as its position and momentum, at the same time. The Schrodinger equation is used to calculate the probabilities that the Heisenberg uncertainty principle describes.

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