Power of a Fan and WindMill using Energy vs dynamic method)

In summary, there are two methods for determining the power of a windmill: the dynamics method and the energy method. Both methods involve considering the amount of wind passing through the windmill and its speed. However, the dynamics method uses the equation P = Fv, while the energy method uses the equation Power = (1/2)ρAv3. While these two methods may seem different, they actually result in the same answer when combined with the Bernoulli equation and the momentum equation. Thus, neither method is wrong, they just approach the problem from different perspectives.
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Homework Statement


Determine the power of a windmill using constants where appropriate.

Homework Equations


P = Fv
K = (1/2)mv2

The Attempt at a Solution



Dynamics Method
P = Fv

In time Δt, Δm amount of wind passes through the windmill, at speed of v.

Δp = vΔm
= v(AρΔx)

Dividing both sides by Δt,

F = Aρv2

P = Fv = Apv3Energy Method

In time Δt, Δm amount of wind passes through the windmill, with KE of (1/2)(Δm)v2 .

Energy Transferred = (1/2)(Δm)v2
= (1/2)(ρAΔx)v2

Dividing both sides by Δt,

Power = (1/2)ρAv3 I've thought a long time about this; both methods make sense, but why are they different? Appreciate any help guys!
 
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If you combine the Bernoulli equation with the momentum equation (force) across the blades by relating to pressure differential, you will see that you get the same result as you get with energy considerations.
 
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LawrenceC said:
If you combine the Bernoulli equation with the momentum equation (force) across the blades by relating to pressure differential, you will see that you get the same result as you get with energy considerations.

so do is the dynamics method here wrong?
 

1. How does a fan or windmill generate power?

A fan or windmill generates power by converting the kinetic energy of moving air particles into mechanical energy. This mechanical energy can then be used to power various devices or machines.

2. What is the difference between using energy and the dynamic method for power generation?

The energy method involves directly harnessing the kinetic energy of the moving air particles, while the dynamic method involves using a turbine or propeller to convert the kinetic energy into mechanical energy before it can be used for power generation.

3. Which method is more efficient for power generation?

The dynamic method is generally more efficient for power generation as it allows for the use of larger turbines and propellers, which can capture more of the kinetic energy from the moving air particles.

4. Can a fan or windmill generate enough power to meet all our energy needs?

It is unlikely that a single fan or windmill could generate enough power to meet all our energy needs, as they are limited by the amount of kinetic energy available in the moving air. However, multiple fans or windmills working together can generate significant amounts of power.

5. What are some practical applications of using fans and windmills for power generation?

Fans and windmills can be used for a variety of practical applications, such as powering homes and buildings, pumping water, and generating electricity for remote or off-grid locations. They can also be used in conjunction with other renewable energy sources, such as solar panels, to create a more sustainable energy system.

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