Pressure Difference: Why Ignored at P1 & P2 in Energy Eqn?

In summary, the author ignores the pressure difference at points 1 and 2 in the energy equation because pressure and energy are dimensionally different for incompressible fluids. The author has divided out ρg everywhere and chosen points 1 and 2 on the surface, indicating that the pressures at those points are the same.
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why the author ignore the pressure difference at point 1 and point 2 in the energy equation ?pressure at pont 1 must be higher than pressure 2 , right ? as the height of P1 is higher

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foo9008 said:

Homework Statement


why the author ignore the pressure difference at point 1 and point 2 in the energy equation ?pressure at pont 1 must be higher than pressure 2 , right ? as the height of P1 is higher
Pressure and energy are dimensionally different. How would you propose to take pressure into account for an energy equation involving incompressible fluid?
 
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haruspex said:
Pressure and energy are dimensionally different. How would you propose to take pressure into account for an energy equation involving incompressible fluid?
sorry , why the author did not take the P/ y into the calculation ? where y = ρg
 
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foo9008 said:
sorry , why the author did not take the P/ y into the calculation ? where y = ρg
The 2+ and 1+ are the potential energy terms. It is a bit confusing because the author has divided out ρg everywhere.
 
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haruspex said:
The 2+ and 1+ are the potential energy terms. It is a bit confusing because the author has divided out ρg everywhere.
after dividing the ρg why there is no P to be taken into the calculation ? the author assume P1 and P2 as same pressure? why ?
 
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foo9008 said:
after dividing the ρg why there is no P to be taken into the calculation ? the author assume P1 and P2 as same pressure? why ?
Bernoulli's equation refers to identified points in the streamline. The author's choice of height values (1, 2) indicates the points being chosen are on the surface, so the pressure is the same. If instead you pick points at the bottom of the stream then the heights are the same and the pressures are different, but the equation turns out the same.
 
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haruspex said:
Bernoulli's equation refers to identified points in the streamline. The author's choice of height values (1, 2) indicates the points being chosen are on the surface, so the pressure is the same. If instead you pick points at the bottom of the stream then the heights are the same and the pressures are different, but the equation turns out the same.
so do you mean the author choose point 1 and2 on the surface??
 
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foo9008 said:
so do you mean the author choose point 1 and2 on the surface??
It seems that way.
 
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1. What is pressure difference and why is it important?

Pressure difference refers to the difference in pressure between two points in a fluid or gas. It is important because it drives the flow of fluids and gases, and is a key factor in many scientific and engineering applications such as fluid dynamics, aerodynamics, and thermodynamics.

2. How is pressure difference calculated?

Pressure difference is typically calculated by subtracting the pressure at one point from the pressure at another point. This can be done using various units of measurement such as pounds per square inch (psi), pascals (Pa), or atmospheres (atm).

3. Why is pressure difference often ignored at points P1 and P2 in energy equations?

In energy equations, pressure difference at points P1 and P2 is often ignored because the focus is on the overall change in pressure between the two points, rather than the specific pressure at each point. This simplifies the equations and makes them easier to solve.

4. Can pressure difference be negative?

Yes, pressure difference can be negative. This indicates that the pressure at point P1 is higher than at point P2, and the fluid or gas is flowing in the opposite direction than expected.

5. How does pressure difference affect fluid flow?

Pressure difference is a driving force for fluid flow. The greater the pressure difference, the faster the fluid will flow. In fact, the flow rate is directly proportional to the pressure difference according to Bernoulli's principle.

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