Probability: Draw w/o replacement, 3 different kinds of balls, don't understand

In summary, the probability mass function of R is 0 -> 24/120, 1 -> 72/120, 2 -> 24/120. To get these ratios, the distinction between green and blue is irrelevant and we can just think of 2 red and 4 non-red balls. For 0 red balls, the probability is 2/3 * 3/5 * 1/2. For 1 red ball, the probability is 3/6 * 2/5 * 3. For 2 red balls, the probability is 1/6 * 2/5 * 1/4. This gives us the probabilities of 24/120, 72/120,
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zeion
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Homework Statement



This was an example given in class but I didn't understand how the answer was derived.
Suppose we draw 3 balls without replacement from an urn with 2 red, 2 green, and 2 blue balls. Define the following random variables:

R = number of red balls drawn
G = number of green balls drawn
B = number of blue balls drawn

What is the probability mass function of R?

0 -> 24/120
1 -> 72/120
2 -> 24/120

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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand how to get those ratios.
For 0 red balls, there will be either 2G 1B or 2B 1G.
 
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zeion said:

Homework Statement



This was an example given in class but I didn't understand how the answer was derived.
Suppose we draw 3 balls without replacement from an urn with 2 red, 2 green, and 2 blue balls. Define the following random variables:

R = number of red balls drawn
G = number of green balls drawn
B = number of blue balls drawn

What is the probability mass function of R?

0 -> 24/120
1 -> 72/120
2 -> 24/120

Why not reduce those fractions?

I don't understand how to get those ratios.
For 0 red balls, there will be either 2G 1B or 2B 1G.

For example, to get 1 red you would have to choose 1 from the 2 red and 2 from the 4 non-red. That can be done in [itex]\binom2 1 \binom 4 2[/itex] ways. The total number of ways to choose 3 balls from the 6 is [itex]\binom 6 3[/itex] Dividing gives

[tex]P(2 \hbox{ red}) = \frac{\binom2 1 \binom 4 2}{\binom 6 3} = \frac 3 5[/tex]
ways.
 
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For the purposes of finding the probability of a certain number of red bals, the distinction between green and blue is irrelevant. So just think that there are 2 red and 4 "non-red" balls.

To get 0 red balls you have to get a non-red ball each time. There are 4 non-red out of 6 so the probability of a non-red ball on the first draw is 4/6= 2/3. Since we do not replace it there are 5 balls left, three of which are non-red. The probability of getting a non-red ball is now 3/5. Since we do not replace it, there are now 4 balls, two of which are non-red. The probability that the third ball drawn is also non-red is 2/4= 1/2.

For "one red ball", you could calculate the probability of "RNN" (red, non-red, non-red) in the same way, then use the fact that all three orders, "RNN", "NRN", and "NNR" are all the same.

For "two red balls", look at "RRN", "RNR", and "NRR".
 
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HallsofIvy said:
For the purposes of finding the probability of a certain number of red bals, the distinction between green and blue is irrelevant. So just think that there are 2 red and 4 "non-red" balls.

To get 0 red balls you have to get a non-red ball each time. There are 4 non-red out of 6 so the probability of a non-red ball on the first draw is 4/6= 2/3. Since we do not replace it there are 5 balls left, three of which are non-red. The probability of getting a non-red ball is now 3/5. Since we do not replace it, there are now 4 balls, two of which are non-red. The probability that the third ball drawn is also non-red is 2/4= 1/2.

For "one red ball", you could calculate the probability of "RNN" (red, non-red, non-red) in the same way, then use the fact that all three orders, "RNN", "NRN", and "NNR" are all the same.

For "two red balls", look at "RRN", "RNR", and "NRR".

Thank you!
That made sense. I copied something like that in my notes but couldn't figure it out.
 

1. What is probability?

Probability is the measure of the likelihood of an event occurring. It is represented as a number between 0 and 1, where 0 indicates impossibility and 1 indicates certainty.

2. What does "draw without replacement" mean?

Drawing without replacement means that once an item is selected, it is removed from the pool of items to choose from for subsequent selections. This reduces the total number of items available for selection each time.

3. What are "3 different kinds of balls" in terms of probability?

In probability, "3 different kinds of balls" refers to a scenario where there are 3 distinct types of balls in a pool from which you are drawing. This means that the probability of drawing a specific type of ball may vary depending on the total number of each type of ball in the pool.

4. How does "draw without replacement" affect the probability of selecting certain balls?

"Draw without replacement" can affect the probability of selecting certain balls because as items are removed from the pool, the total number of items available for selection decreases. This can change the likelihood of selecting a specific type of ball, as the proportion of that type of ball in the remaining pool may change.

5. Why is it important to understand probability when dealing with multiple types of balls and drawing without replacement?

Understanding probability is important in this scenario because it allows us to predict the likelihood of certain outcomes. This can be helpful when making decisions or analyzing data. Additionally, drawing without replacement can significantly impact the probability of certain events, so understanding this concept is crucial for accurate calculations.

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