Proving the Angle Relationship in Complex Vector Multiplication

In summary, the conversation discusses a question from Vibrations and Waves by A.P. French Chapter 1 regarding a vector z defined by Z=Z1Z2, where Z1=a+jb, Z2=c+jd. The first part involves showing that the length of z is the product of the lengths of Z1 and Z2, while the second part involves showing that the angle between z and the x-axis is the sum of the angles made by Z1 and Z2. The conversation includes attempts at solving the problem using trigonometry and Euler's formula, ultimately leading to a solution in polar form.
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nucleawasta
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Homework Statement



Question from Vibrations and Waves by A.P. French Chapter 1

Consider a vector z defined by Z=Z1Z2, where Z1=a+jb, Z2=c+jd.

a)Show that the length of the of z is the product of the lengths of Z1 and Z2.

b)Show that the angle between z and the x-axis is the sum of of the angles made by Z1 and Z2

Homework Equations


tan(θ1)=b/a
tan(θ2)=d/c
|Z1|=Z1
|Z2|=Z2

The Attempt at a Solution



So the first part I didn't have any trouble with, it was fairly straight forward showing that the length of Z1*Z2 was equal to the length of Z. But when I moved to part B I ran into a problem. Here's what I tried.

I Knew θ1=b/a and θ2=d/c by a first order taylor expansion of the tangents of these angles and since I am told the angle of Z, θZ is the sum of these two. I must prove:

θZ=(cb+da)/ca

However when I write out the form of Z=Z1Z2 I get:

Z=ac-bd +j(ad+bc). Now since I know the tan(θZ)=imaginary/real

I get tan(θZ)=(ad+bc)/(ac-bd).

I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong, but I'd really appreciate a hand! Thanks!
 
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  • #2
You don't want to make any small angle approximation since you want to prove it for arbitrary angles.
nucleawasta said:
tan(θZ)=(ad+bc)/(ac-bd).
Try finding a trig identity involving the tangent function that you can relate to your expression for tan(θZ).
 
  • #3
Have you been introduced to Euler's formula yet or are you required to solve it in cartesian form?
 
  • #4
I mean I'm actually a senior physics major :P(slightly embarrassing I couldn't solve this) I've seen Euler's identity and it is introduced in the chapter, so I suppose that could be a viable way to solve the problem.
 
  • #5
TSny said:
You don't want to make any small angle approximation since you want to prove it for arbitrary angles.

Try finding a trig identity involving the tangent function that you can relate to your expression for tan(θZ).


Many thanks,

Using the relation tan(θ12)=(tan(θ1)+tan(θ2))/1-tan(θ1)*tan(θ2)

I was able to use trigonometry(SOHCAHTOA as i learned it way back when) to plug in for the tan(θ1) and tan(θ2) which ultimately leads to the solution I was trying to prove from my first post.

:smile:
 
  • #6
A lot easier to solve in polar form :)
 

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