QED photon vs photon as particle

In summary, a photon is traditionally viewed as a particle with momentum, but in quantum electrodynamics it is considered an excitation of the vacuum state. There is debate about how to reconcile this Fock representation with the concept of a photon as a wavepacket.
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Quasi-classically, a photon is often considered as a particle with some momentum traveling across the space - for example, when describing experimental setups like Mach-Zender interferometer we often talk as if the photon was actually a particle moving along some possible paths, i.e. we treat it just like any other particle, with a wavefunction giving its position probability amplitude.

Now, in quantum electrodynamics a photon is simply an excitation of the vacuum state, that is, an eigenstate of the total photon number operator [tex]\int a_{k}a_{k}^{\dagger}[/tex]. Physically, how do you connect this Fock representation picture (photon = [tex]\int c(k)a_{k}a_{k}^{\dagger}\vert 0 \rangle dk[/tex]) to the "photon as a wavepacket" picture (photon = [tex]\psi (r, t)[/tex])?
 
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neworder1 said:
Quasi-classically, a photon is often considered as a particle with some momentum traveling across the space - for example, when describing experimental setups like Mach-Zender interferometer we often talk as if the photon was actually a particle moving along some possible paths, i.e. we treat it just like any other particle, with a wavefunction giving its position probability amplitude.
That picture is incorrect. See for instance
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/why-photon-wave-function-does-not-exist.659614/https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...n-and-qed-the-strange-theory-of-light.812112/
 

Related to QED photon vs photon as particle

1. What is the difference between a QED photon and a photon as a particle?

A QED photon, or quantum electrodynamics photon, is a theoretical concept used in quantum field theory to describe the electromagnetic force. It is considered a fundamental particle, but it is not a physical particle that can be observed directly. A photon as a particle, on the other hand, is a concept used in classical physics to describe the smallest unit of light and its behavior. It can be observed and measured in experiments.

2. Can a QED photon and a photon as a particle coexist?

Yes, they can coexist in the same space. However, the way they are described and understood is different. QED photons are described using quantum mechanics, while photons as particles are described using classical mechanics. They are different ways of understanding the same phenomenon.

3. How are QED photons and photons as particles related?

QED photons are a theoretical concept that is used to explain the behavior of photons as particles. In other words, they are used to explain how photons interact with each other and with matter. QED provides a more complete and accurate understanding of the behavior of photons compared to classical physics.

4. Can QED photons and photons as particles be measured differently?

Yes, they can be measured differently. QED photons are usually described in terms of their wave-like nature, while photons as particles are described in terms of their particle-like behavior. This means that different types of experiments and measurements are used to study and observe them.

5. Are QED photons and photons as particles always in agreement?

No, they are not always in agreement. While QED photons provide a more accurate and complete understanding of the behavior of photons, there are certain situations where classical physics is sufficient to explain their behavior. QED is a more advanced and complex theory, and in certain cases, the predictions of classical physics may be enough to describe the behavior of photons.

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