Question about Copenhagen's interpretation

In summary, the conversation discusses the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, which states that matter can exist in multiple states until it is observed. However, it does not define what constitutes an observation or who or what can make an observation. This leads to the possibility of an entity being able to control reality by manipulating observations. The conversation also touches on the limitations of this concept and the idea of wavefunction collapse. Ultimately, while the concept may work well for fiction, it is not a scientifically testable theory.
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Pseudepigraphy
I am doing research for a web based science-fiction / physics-fiction novel I am working on. Would anyone here know much about Copenhagen's interpretation and if I am correct or false in assuming the following:

The interpretation states that matter can be in a superposition of forms until observed and until it is observed it has not yet decided the state it will be in. If I am correct it never defines what an "observation" is and who or what could actually do the "observing". Thus if an entity could in fact make an "observation" and do it in such a way that the matter in question changes to the state they desire, this entity, in essence, would control reality. The constant and willful changing by these entities would cause a paradox in the form of multiple states of reality (based on the flawed logic of this interpretation -- ala Schrödinger's cat).

If this sort of makes sense let me know.. I enjoy creating fiction, but believability breeds readability in my opinion. I do not have a physics background so excuse me and do tell if what I wrote is complete and utter nonsense.
 
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Pseudepigraphy said:
The interpretation states that matter can be in a superposition of forms until observed and until it is observed it has not yet decided the state it will be in. If I am correct it never defines what an "observation" is and who or what could actually do the "observing". Thus if an entity could in fact make an "observation" and do it in such a way that the matter in question changes to the state they desire, this entity, in essence, would control reality. The constant and willful changing by these entities would cause a paradox in the form of multiple states of reality (based on the flawed logic of this interpretation -- ala Schrödinger's cat).

The one line answer is, a device like that is impossible, but just fine for fiction.

For the purposes of science fiction, the science of things really isn't that important - so you're fine using something like this. The existence of such a device is impossible in the same theories that also allow for supposition of states. (Basically, what you're describing would be something very similar to Douglas Adam's infinite improbability drive.) Even a single device like this could lead to faster-than-light travel, broken causality (like people killing their own parents before birth) and all kinds of other messy stuff.

I should point out that things which are called 'Interpretations' in the context of quantum mechanics basically refer to things that are not testable. There is no way to experimentally distinguish the Copenhagen Interpretation (many states before the observation) from the Many Worlds Interpretation (many states after the observation) from Bohmian Interpretation (faster than light interaction) from the Von Neuman / Plug and Grind interpretation (don't ask me, I just work the numbers). That is to say - this is really philosophy or religion rather than science.

The notion of 'waveform collapse' (things going one way or another at observation) is, at this point, an artifact of interpretation and not a physical phenomenon. Basically, 'waveform collapse' is the transition between the quantum universe (where observations affect things) to the non-quantum universe (where observations don't affect things).
 
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I can provide some information about Copenhagen's interpretation and address your questions and assumptions.

Copenhagen's interpretation is a popular interpretation of quantum mechanics, which deals with the behavior of matter and energy at a very small scale. According to this interpretation, matter can exist in a superposition of states until it is observed or measured, at which point it "collapses" into a definite state. This means that at the quantum level, particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously until they are observed, at which point they take on a specific state.

However, it is important to note that this interpretation is just one of many interpretations of quantum mechanics, and there is still much debate and discussion among scientists about the true nature of quantum phenomena.

In terms of your assumptions, it is correct that Copenhagen's interpretation does not define what an "observation" is or who or what can do the observing. This is one of the criticisms of this interpretation, as it leaves room for different interpretations and opens up the possibility for paradoxes.

Your idea of an entity controlling reality through observation is an interesting concept, but it is not supported by current scientific understanding. The idea of an entity being able to manipulate matter and reality through observation is more in the realm of science fiction rather than science fact.

In conclusion, your understanding of Copenhagen's interpretation is generally correct, but it is important to keep in mind that it is just one interpretation among many and there is still much debate and discussion about the true nature of quantum mechanics. While it is perfectly acceptable to use scientific concepts in fiction writing, it is important to also remain grounded in scientific evidence and understanding.
 

Related to Question about Copenhagen's interpretation

1. What is Copenhagen's interpretation?

Copenhagen's interpretation is a framework for understanding quantum mechanics, developed by Niels Bohr and Werner Heisenberg in the 1920s. It proposes that the behavior of particles at the quantum level is inherently probabilistic and cannot be fully determined or predicted.

2. How does Copenhagen's interpretation differ from other interpretations of quantum mechanics?

Copenhagen's interpretation differs from other interpretations, such as the many-worlds interpretation or the pilot-wave theory, in that it does not attempt to provide a physical explanation for the behavior of particles at the quantum level. Instead, it focuses on the mathematical formalism of quantum mechanics and how it can be used to make accurate predictions.

3. What is the role of the observer in Copenhagen's interpretation?

In Copenhagen's interpretation, the observer plays a crucial role in the measurement process. It is believed that the act of observation causes the collapse of the wave function, determining the outcome of a measurement. This concept is known as the observer effect.

4. Is Copenhagen's interpretation widely accepted by the scientific community?

Copenhagen's interpretation is one of the most widely accepted interpretations of quantum mechanics, but it is not without its critics. Some scientists argue that it is incomplete and does not fully explain the mysteries of quantum mechanics.

5. How does Copenhagen's interpretation impact our understanding of reality?

Copenhagen's interpretation challenges our traditional understanding of reality by suggesting that at the quantum level, particles do not have definite properties until they are observed. This can be difficult to reconcile with our everyday experiences and raises philosophical questions about the nature of reality.

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