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The discussion centers on understanding a paper that reconciles data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) and the Hubble Space Telescope (HST). The authors argue that modifications to the ΛCDM cosmological model to account for JWST's findings would conflict with established HST data, suggesting that the JWST mass excess problem may not have a straightforward cosmological solution. The conversation also touches on the UV galaxy luminosity function, with a recommendation to refer to a seminal paper for deeper insights. Overall, the importance of HST data in interpreting new observations is emphasized, highlighting its role in shaping our understanding of early-universe cosmology. The discussion concludes with a consensus on the need for a comprehensive understanding of the cosmological model in light of new findings.
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https://astrobites.org/2024/02/17/cosmic-inconsistencies/
https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.07049
Insights from HST into Ultra-Massive Galaxies and Early-Universe Cosmology
Hello.


I came across this article, https://astrobites.org/2024/02/17/cosmic-inconsistencies/ and followed the link to this paper, https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.07049 Insights from HST into Ultra-Massive Galaxies and Early-Universe Cosmology and have read the .pdf

For the moment I have just one request.

Could the conclusion that the authors make please be explained to me in Basic terms so that I can gain a better understanding of what is meant? I would like to better understand the UV galaxy luminosity function and also what the authors mean when they refer to a cosmological solution to the JWST abundance problem.

Thank you for any help given,


Cerenkov.

 
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Cerenkov said:
Could the conclusion that the authors make please be explained to me in Basic terms.
The article you linked does this well:

The findings from JWST observations have presented a challenge to the existing models of galaxy formation and early-Universe cosmology that led to a reevaluation of our cosmological model. Today’s paper demonstrated that any modifications to the cosmological model enough to explain the JWST data would be in conflict with the well-established HST data. Their analysis implies that a cosmological solution to the JWST mass excess problem might not be the most favored. Moving forward, the extensively validated HST data emerges as a crucial tool for interpreting future observations, signalling the importance of leveraging its well-established insights in shaping our understanding of the universe.

Edit: or even more basic terms:

Changing the ΛCDM model so that it predicts more massive galaxies at high redshifts is a bad idea because the changed model contradicts too many other observations.

Cerenkov said:
I would like to better understand the UV galaxy luminosity function
I don't think cherry-picking technical subjects is a good way to learn (one lacks the necessary background understanding and context), but if you insist the seminal paper is Charles C. Steidel et al 1999 ApJ 519 1.

Cerenkov said:
also what the authors mean when they refer to a cosmological solution to the JWST abundance problem
This refers to changing the ΛCDM model so that it predicts more massive galaxies at high redshifts.

Cerenkov said:
Thank you for any help given,
Although the Astrobites article is good, you might find JWST Sees More Galaxies than Expected more accessible.
 
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Many thanks, pbuk. :smile:

You were right, btw. Your linked article was just what I needed to read to understand this better.


Thanks again,

Cerenkov.
 
Regarding the discrepancy between the abundance of massive galaxies in the early universe and the ΛCDM cosmological model, this other paper presents a possible explanation for this abundance within the framework of the ΛCDM model.
 
Many thanks for this, Jaime.

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Abstract The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) has significantly advanced our ability to study black holes, achieving unprecedented spatial resolution and revealing horizon-scale structures. Notably, these observations feature a distinctive dark shadow—primarily arising from faint jet emissions—surrounded by a bright photon ring. Anticipated upgrades of the EHT promise substantial improvements in dynamic range, enabling deeper exploration of low-background regions, particularly the inner shadow...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recombination_(cosmology) Was a matter density right after the decoupling low enough to consider the vacuum as the actual vacuum, and not the medium through which the light propagates with the speed lower than ##({\epsilon_0\mu_0})^{-1/2}##? I'm asking this in context of the calculation of the observable universe radius, where the time integral of the inverse of the scale factor is multiplied by the constant speed of light ##c##.
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