Radio doppler experiment (astro)

In summary, the conversation discussed the use of radio doppler experiments in landers on Venus and Mars. The purpose of this experiment was to measure the doppler shift caused by the planet's orbit around the sun. It was suggested that this could also be used to measure wind speed, similar to Doppler radar used for weather forecasting. Additionally, there is an ongoing initiative to use VLBI tracking and direct-to-Earth telemetry to study the atmospheric conditions of Jupiter during spacecraft descent. The Venera 9 mission also used radar doppler instruments for mapping the surface of Venus.
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Ive been going through some landers of Venus and Mars and I found they were equipped with radio doppler experiment(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venera_9 )

I was wondering what this does.
I mean there is radio signal transmitted through space everywhere and i suppose the device would measure this transmitted radio.
But is there doppler shift because the planet the lander is on is orbitting the Sun?
If the planet orbitting the Sun is the reason for doppler shift, is the doppler shift experiment simply to measure how fast the planet is going?
 
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If I had to guess, I'd say that it had to do with wind speed measurements. Something akin to the Doppler radar we use for weather forecasting.
 
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This is not a guess.

Planetary Radio Interferometry and Doppler Experiment (PRIDE) for the Europa
Jupiter System Mission
Major components of the initiative scientific study and R&D activity:
1. VLBI tracking of the planetary probes
2. Doppler tracking in the One-Way or Multi-Way signal reception mode
3. Propagation media effects study
4. Direct-to Earth telemetry data reception from planetary probes, landers, penetrators, etc
5. Passive radio spectroscopy of the natural molecular lines from planetary environments

www.planetaryprobe.eu/IPPW7/proceedings/.../Session3/pr525.pdf

There is a specific experiment for measuring the wind speed on Jupiter during the descent of a spacecraft . Google is your friend here.
 
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In the Venera 9 mission, radar doppler instruments were primarily intended for bistatic mapping of the surface of Venus, which would permit extraction of surface profiles. For further details see http://www.mentallandscape.com/V_RadarMapping.htm
 
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The radio doppler experiment on the Venera 9 lander was used to study the atmosphere and ionosphere of Venus. It works by transmitting a radio signal from the lander and then receiving the reflected signal back. The frequency of the reflected signal is then compared to the original transmitted signal, and any differences in frequency indicate the presence of atmospheric or ionospheric disturbances.

The Doppler shift in this case is caused by the relative motion between the lander and the reflected signal. As the lander moves through the atmosphere, the reflected signal will have a slightly different frequency due to the Doppler effect. This allows scientists to study the composition and dynamics of the atmosphere and ionosphere of Venus.

The Doppler shift experiment is not simply to measure the speed of the planet, but rather to gather information about the planet's atmosphere and ionosphere. By analyzing the Doppler shift, scientists can determine the speed and direction of winds, the presence of atmospheric layers, and other important data about the planet's atmosphere. This information is crucial for understanding the climate and composition of Venus and Mars, and can also provide insights into the formation and evolution of these planets.
 

1. What is the radio doppler experiment (astro)?

The radio doppler experiment (astro) is a scientific method used to study the movement and properties of celestial objects, such as stars and galaxies, by measuring the shift in the frequency of radio waves emitted by these objects. This shift is caused by the Doppler effect, which is the change in frequency of a wave due to the relative motion between the source and the observer.

2. How does the radio doppler experiment (astro) work?

The experiment involves using a radio telescope to detect radio waves emitted by celestial objects. The telescope collects the waves and sends them to a receiver, which measures the frequency of the waves. By comparing the frequency of the waves emitted by a celestial object to the expected frequency, scientists can calculate the object's speed and direction of motion.

3. What can we learn from the radio doppler experiment (astro)?

The radio doppler experiment (astro) allows scientists to study the motion and properties of celestial objects, such as their speed, direction of motion, and distance from Earth. This information can help us understand the formation and evolution of these objects, as well as the structure and dynamics of the universe.

4. How is the radio doppler experiment (astro) different from other astronomical techniques?

The radio doppler experiment (astro) is different from other astronomical techniques because it specifically focuses on the study of the motion and properties of celestial objects through the measurement of radio waves. Other techniques, such as optical telescopes, use visible light to study celestial objects.

5. What are some real-life applications of the radio doppler experiment (astro)?

The radio doppler experiment (astro) has several real-life applications, including the study of the movement and properties of planets, stars, and galaxies, which can help us understand the origins and evolution of our universe. It is also used in satellite communication and navigation systems, as well as in weather forecasting and tracking space debris.

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