Reaction force be 0 at top of circular path swing?

In summary, at the top of the swing, the minimum centripetal force required for the water in a swinging bucket is only the weight of the water. The reaction force of the bucket on the water can be 0 at the top of the swing because the water is in free fall. For a given total energy, the swing rate is least at the top, so the centripetal force is also least there. The reaction force fluctuates throughout a full 360 swing, with the tangential speed as a function of the angle.
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opne
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Homework Statement


Hi, I have a question about a bucket filled with water being swung in a vertical circular path.
I'm wondering why at the top of this swing, the reaction force of the bucket on the water can be 0? (ie. why is the minimum centripetal force required only the weight of the water?)
Then, why can the reaction force only be 0 when the bucket is at the top of its swing?
Further, how else does the reaction force fluctuate throughout a full 360 swing?

Homework Equations


F=mv^2/r
mv^2/r = mg + R
Minimum v^2 = rg

The Attempt at a Solution


R= 0
mv^2/r = mg ... but I have no clue whyThanks.
 
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opne said:
why is the minimum centripetal force required only the weight of the water?
You have to be careful what you mean by minimum. Minimum with respect to varying what and holding what constant?
For a given constant swing rate, the centripetal force is constant.
For a given total energy, the swing rate is least at the top, so the centripetal force is least there.
If you mean minimum across all energies for which the water does not fall out: If the centripetal force required at the top of the swing were any more than the weight of the water then you could swing the bucket with a little less energy without the water falling out.
opne said:
why can the reaction force only be 0 when the bucket is at the top of its swing?
At the bottom the reaction force has to counter gravity as well as provide the centripetal force. For any position except top or bottom, the centripetal force is not vertical, so something other than gravity must contribute to it.
opne said:
how else does the reaction force fluctuate throughout a full 360 swing?
If the energy is fixed, write an expression for the tangential speed as a function of the angle.
 
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haruspex said:
For a given total energy, the swing rate is least at the top, so the centripetal force is least there.
Ah yes! This clears things up thank you.I guess a better question would be, how can the reaction force of the bucket on the water suddenly become 0/stop existing, even though the water is still inside the bucket, and so presumably exerting a force on the bucket?
Or is there no longer a force of the bucket, and the water is in free fall at the top?

Thank you!
 
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opne said:
the water is in free fall at the top?
Yes.
 

1. What is reaction force at the top of a circular path swing?

The reaction force at the top of a circular path swing is equal to 0. This is because the centripetal force, which is directed towards the center of the circle, is the only force acting on the object at this point.

2. Why does the reaction force become 0 at the top of a circular path swing?

The reaction force becomes 0 at the top of a circular path swing because the direction of the centripetal force changes from being downwards to upwards. This change in direction causes the force to cancel out, resulting in a net reaction force of 0.

3. Does this mean there is no force acting on the object at the top of a circular path swing?

No, there is still a force acting on the object at the top of a circular path swing. The centripetal force is still present and is responsible for keeping the object moving in a circular path.

4. Can the reaction force ever be 0 at any other point on the swing?

Yes, the reaction force can also be 0 at the bottom of the swing. This is because the direction of the centripetal force changes from being upwards to downwards, resulting in a cancellation of forces and a net reaction force of 0.

5. What happens to the reaction force as the object moves through the swing?

The reaction force changes in magnitude and direction as the object moves through the swing. At the bottom and top of the swing, the reaction force is 0, while at other points along the swing, it is directed towards the center of the circle to keep the object moving in a circular path.

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